Superbowl ad, now that we've seen it...

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Superbowl ad, now that we've seen it...
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Mon, 02-08-2010 - 9:38am

...what are your thoughts on it?


I was actually pleasantly surprised that they really didn't force any sort of viewpoints on the viewers.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 9:33pm

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But you still haven't answered my question: WHY is what Terry O'Neill said "BS" to you? You're really not being clear. WHY is it a problem that she feels the way she does? And what makes it "BS" to begin with? Do you have information on her that we do not have? Definitive evidence that she has no personal experience with domestic abuse and therefore, no frame of reference for it? Please share.

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Why would any woman "lie" about domestic abuse, especially a public figure like the president of NOW? What benefit or advantage would there be for a woman to do such a thing? As a survivor, I'm really surprised that you aren't more supportive toward other women who may have suffered ANY kind of abuse, whether it was as bad as your own or not. I'd think you'd be more sensitive. Remind me not to look you up if ever, God forbid, such a thing happens to me.

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You'd prefer to be dead, then? Sounds like you have some personal issues you need to work through. It's bigger than anything I care to keep discussing, however.




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Wed, 02-10-2010 - 10:18pm

But you still haven't answered my question: WHY is what Terry O'Neill said "BS" to you? You're really not being clear. WHY is it a problem that she feels the way she does? And what makes it "BS" to begin with? Do you have information on her that we do not have? Definitive evidence that she has no personal experience with domestic abuse and therefore, no frame of reference for it? Please share.

I think that Terry O'Neil trying to pass that ad off as advocacy for Dv is Bs plain and simple despite my reservations or suspicions about her bottom line that is my beef with her.

I don't think that it is a problem that she feels the way she does but she is speaking as the president of NOW and supposedly in the best interest of ALL women and I think she is making something of nothing. Until she said anything about the ad I'm sure it didn't cross anyone's mind or very few of them.

This is where PC absurdity starts.

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Why indeed? Why would women lie about rape? or any other abuse
? but they do and to suggest that women don't lie because you can't imagine it is I think a little naive.

,<<< especially a public figure like the president of NOW? What benefit or advantage would there be for a woman to do such a thing?>>

I don't know about Terry O'Neil's personal reasons but I can think of a few in general. A woman is jilted makes a man pay for his perceived crime? custody disputes? I have first hand knowledge of women and how they can lie and their supposed reasons for doing so.

<<< As a survivor, I'm really surprised that you aren't more supportive toward other women who may have suffered ANY kind of abuse, whether it was as bad as your own or not. I'd think you'd be more sensitive. Remind me not to look you up if ever, God forbid, such a thing happens to me.>>

As a survivor I have seen far to many women who get beaten to a pulp and run away in the middle of the night with their children only to return to the man who did that and her reason? Why. she loves him! No I'm not the woman to run to if those are the types of games you want to play.

Please it is because other women are not as harsh about that kind of BS that women feel they can get away with it.

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No, i like living just fine though it does come at a price but doesn't that sound true for just about everyone who keeps breathing? no I dealt with my issues long ago I'm stronger and wiser for it and trust me if i needed to discuss anything with anyone I wouldn't come to this board to do it.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 10:26pm
Huh. Yeah...I don't really feel comfortable discussing this topic with you anymore. Sorry...
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 11:31pm

>But the president of NOW found the time to to publicly comment on a super bowl ad that had nothing to do with DV? hmm c'mon sandy that's a little dishonest.<

Dishonest? Nah. Waste of political capital? Yes. She would have been better off sticking to the issue at hand.

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Thu, 02-11-2010 - 12:43am

you said yourself that if you didn't know it was a pro life commercial you wouldn't have gotten a clue from the content but you now suddenly see DV? hmmm ok.


Wrong. Thistle said no such thing. That was me who said that. Maybe you should read more carefully before putting words in other people's mouths.


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Thu, 02-11-2010 - 12:53am

Maybe because I have been to hell and back in that situation I would better understand how someone who is in that situation or has been in the past would feel. I see situations and yes I say things I call people on their BS as I would expect them to do with me.


Well, I've been pregnant before so I would also know better and understand how someone in that situation would feel. Clearly, that should mean that I get to dictate how each woman handles her pregnancy, right?


That's the crux of your argument? That because you've been in a situation (in this case, domestic violence) that you know better than another woman what should or should not offend her? How is that mentality any different than those who are anti-choice?

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Registered: 12-16-2009
Thu, 02-11-2010 - 1:21am

Worse... know better than another woman who was herself abused. And further, know better than a stranger does whether or not they were even abused and to what extent.

So because you've been pregnant before, you can decide not only how each woman handles her pregnancy, but if she's even pregnant and how far along... without knowing her.

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Registered: 10-14-2003
Thu, 02-11-2010 - 8:03am

Sweetheart let me tell you something, I have done a complete search closer to home and umm you are right my problem is not the organization per se it's just the women that tend to frequent them.


Now, let me tell you something.....I'm not now, nor ever will be your sweetheart, dear.

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Registered: 02-06-2009
Thu, 02-11-2010 - 9:51am
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Because If she had she would not have been that bothered by what she saw on that super bowl ad >


Just because you weren't? Some people find that having survived DV, rape, loss, etc, they become hypersensitive to anything that smacks of those topics. So a rape victim might find it impossible to watch a portrayal of consenting rough sex. A DV victim might find it impossible to see a jokey portrayal of a football player tackling his mother.


Your way of dealing with things is not the only way of dealing with things.


And for the record, I am a feminist. If it weren't for feminism, domestic violence would probably

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Thu, 02-11-2010 - 10:10am
Great post. Maybe she'll understand it better coming from you.
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