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Sat, 02-16-2008 - 12:34pm
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Sun, 02-17-2008 - 9:35pm

"How do you feel about birth control?


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Sun, 02-17-2008 - 9:41pm
I just wanted to add that I understand you are having a difficult pregnancy, and wish the best for you.

 

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Sun, 02-17-2008 - 9:51pm

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What makes you say that? If you mean from a health risk standpoint, I would like to see your sources about the risk ratio.
Also, I have seen a 24 week fetus. I've assisted in operations on 26 week micro preemies. They are quite different from term babies. I'm not trying to say that third trimester abortion is ever anything but a tragedy, but your statement is not meaningful, and since it has been repeated so many times it makes you seem as though you are parroting lines instead of articulating your own thought.

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Personally, I would support abstinence, then multiple forms of birth control combined with good factual reproductive health education but abortion must remain an option.

I'm a mom. My 7 week old daughter is actually sleeping reclined against me while I type this. I'm so pleased that I had the education and healthcare access and support from my family and husband to wait to conceive our child until the right time for me.
My husband and I were married for some time prior to our planned pregnancy. With my chemical and biological exposures at school during my first year, a pregnancy would have been a poor idea. Should I have turned aside from my husband during that time? I think that we had the right to have sex at a time in our relationship when we were not trying to procreate. That was greatly helped by good education and great birth control, but abortion access was good to have available as a last resort.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Sun, 02-17-2008 - 10:00pm

"He should have the same rights to the child that you do IMHO, unless medically you are in danger."

Once it is born, and becomes a child, I agree with you. But since you obviously consider it a child much earlier, let's follow your logic. Does that mean that he should be able to force me to have an abortion if he doesn't want me to carry the pregnancy? If you would allow him to legally force me to continue a pregnancy, then he logically could force me to abort. See, laws like this cut both ways. That's why even Sandra Day O'Connor refused to overturn Roe v. Wade.

It's great that you have your opinion, and that I have mine. Yet, if you want to make yours the law, and deny me the right to my own opinion and the ability to decide these things for myself, you cross the line.




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Registered: 08-23-2007
Sun, 02-17-2008 - 10:19pm

No I don't want mine to be a law.

 

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Sun, 02-17-2008 - 10:36pm

Well its pretty clear what your veiws are on abortion.
And as a mom of three, who has actually *given* birth -- I will just say that your opinion is yours. As incredibly invalid as I may think it to be.


First, "someone." We arent a "someone" until we are born. We are definetly not a "someone" as a blast or an embryo. Most abortions take place in the first trimester. And at that stage the only "someone" involved

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 8:30am

"No I don't want mine to be a law."

Really? Then why did you say this just a handful of posts back in this very thread:

"I think abortion is wrong (unless mothers life is at risk or deformities to the baby) after 12 weeks. The laws should be changed in this country."

Hmmm, seems like you do think the laws should be changed. But, let's also look at the rest of your post.

"I think the law should be fair to both parties. At this time it isn't even close."

So, do you think that if you change the laws to make abortion illegal after 12 weeks, and allow men to legally back out of parental responsibility at any point in time they so choose (since you don't specify) that this is a fair arrangement?

In a world where it is already expected that women will have all or nearly all responsibility for preventing conception, your suggestions (if made into law) will basically make it okay for men to abandon their families because they don't feel like supporting them. Don't you think that women having to be the ones who must prevent pregnancy and carry pregnancy is discrimination enough? Do you really have to encourage their sexual partners to abandon them when it gets inconvenient?




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Mon, 02-18-2008 - 9:02am

"In a world where it is already expected that women will have all or nearly all responsibility for preventing conception"

Good! It should be the women who is preventing birth when it is HER body that will be carrying a child for 9 months. Why would she rely on someone else to make sure they used BC properly? I made sure I used my BC pill right when I was on it because I did not want to get pregnant, wither did my husband but I felt since I was the one who would carry a child I was responsible to prevent that from happening.

"will basically make it okay for men to abandon their families because they don't feel like supporting them."

Good, then maybe more people will have children in committed married relationships with people they know will not leave them when things get hard. I think all men and women at birth should be able to decide to give up their rights to a child if they do not want to parent/support that child. It is not fair a man should have to pay for a child he did not want just because a women gets pregnant.

I believe that a man would need to sign over all of his right within 2 months of the child's birth and legally be excused from supporting that child. I don't think that the man should be able to do it when the child is 5, only as a newborn baby.

Maybe it would make women think of who they are having sex with before they do it.

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Mon, 02-18-2008 - 9:17am

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Yes I think that is a fair arrangement.

 

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Mon, 02-18-2008 - 9:27am

"Yes I think that is a fair arrangement.

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