Thinking outside the box, or trying to :

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Registered: 08-15-2007
Thinking outside the box, or trying to :
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Wed, 10-24-2007 - 11:28am

Okay please don't attack me.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Wed, 10-24-2007 - 1:40pm

I think that you are underscoring one of the major misconceptions about PC people. I am firmly pro-choice, but I do not rejoice when someone has an abortion. Contrary to what some people may say, I do not believe that every woman should have at least two or three abortions under her belt. I think that many, if not the vast majority, of PC people feel the same way you do about the legality of abortion.

I would far rather that effective contraception was cheap, easy to obtain, and widespread in use than the same for abortions. Like you, I abhor abortion but recognize that it is a necessary evil. Until we have a world where every child is a wanted child, abortion must be legal.




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Registered: 06-03-2007
Wed, 10-24-2007 - 5:55pm
Well said, both of you! (and welcome, chellygotabelly)
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Registered: 11-29-2005
Wed, 10-24-2007 - 9:11pm

That's pretty much what I said in another thread (so great minds think alike....):



I think it's safe to say that the PC group does NOT want women to go out and get abortions willy-nilly.


I know that I would love to see the number of abortions performed in this country plummet....but we disagree on the means to achieve those ends.


The PL side would like to reduce the SUPPLY of abortions, by enacting strict limitations on the availability and eventually completely outlawing abortion (though abortions are still plentiful in areas of the world where they are illegal).


Many on the PC side, on the other hand, would like to reduce the DEMAND for abortion, by enabling women to access CHEAP, SAFE, EFFECTIVE birth control, and by allowing women to control their sexual health (e.g. assisting women who otherwise would be forced into unsafe sexual situations by men in their lives).


So I'm pro-CHOICE, but that choice should ideally occur further up the line, BEFORE it comes to unwanted pregnancy and abortion.

 


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Wed, 10-24-2007 - 9:21pm

I don't think most people really love abortion or looks forward to having one. I would choose abortion if I got pregnant but I would not look forward or be happy about it. I would do it to save my life and protect a child from being born to parents that didn't really want him/her. I would not bring a child into the world I did not 200% want.

I know a lot of people can't understand how someone could not want the child they are pregnant with.I am very firmly child free by choice for many reasons. While I think I would make a good parent I don't want to be one. I also do not believe in putting a child in an already over crowded adopting system.

I take the precautions I can to prevent pregnancy but I know that things can happen.

I agree that we ALL need to be nicer to each other in general. I would much rather a baby be aborted than suffer from a horrible illness or be spared a life of horrible abuse and neglect. I think we need to judge less and help more. Showing pictures of horrible things doesn't do anything but hurt people when what we need is to be understanding and supportive of people.

Being PC to me is all about allowing a women to know herself and her situation to know what is best for her and her pregnancy.

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Registered: 03-08-2007
Wed, 10-24-2007 - 10:10pm

On the topic of abortion preventing abuse...If that

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Registered: 08-18-2006
Wed, 10-24-2007 - 11:08pm
I know a very good amoutn of PL people who have had one or more abortions and still claim to be prolife after. I almost think it's funny...It's like abortion is so wrong when everyone else does it no matter what, but their situation, it was different. I've herad them say "we'll I had to abort there was no other option" or "they made me do it" or "I regret it now but I didn't think I had other options"...I love how their situations are so much more desperate than everyone else.
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Registered: 08-18-2006
Wed, 10-24-2007 - 11:12pm

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Registered: 01-22-2006
Thu, 10-25-2007 - 6:57am

People are speaking out about child abuse more. Abortion was legalized in the 70;s. Prior to that people thought it was "none of our business" if a child was being abused. People did not talk about it.

We now have mandatory reporting by teachers and healthcare professional and people are just speaking out more.

I do not think the rates of cases as risen - it is just spoken about more.

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Registered: 08-15-2007
Thu, 10-25-2007 - 9:22am
I don't see how the two could be connected, but maybe?










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Registered: 04-29-2005
Thu, 10-25-2007 - 9:47am

That doesn't explain the increase in child abuse from 1986 until 1993.

http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/stats.htm#Increase

The report estimated the number of abused and neglected children increased from 1.4 million in 1986, to over 2.8 million in 1993. The number of children who were seriously injured quadrupled from about 143,000 to nearly 570,000.

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