Time Limits on Abortion?

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Registered: 03-18-2004
Time Limits on Abortion?
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Thu, 03-13-2008 - 2:45am

Hello to all,


I have been a lurker on this board for quite sometime. I have read thousands of messages that attempt to debate the topic of abortion. I have seen people that claim to be PC who are clearly pro-abortion, and I have seen people who claim to be PL who make far to many "exceptions".


I, myself have read much information relating to both sides of the abortion debate and find definite holes in both arguements.


There is absolutely no way to civily and effectively debate this topic because it doesn't rely solely on scientific facts ,morality and religion is also involved. I have seen PLers present accurate and true arguements that are cited from valuble sources only to have a PCer diregard it as "bias, fake, censored, etc." I have also seen PLers desperately resort to religion as a fail safe, when truly

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Registered: 02-15-2005
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:28am

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Why create unnecessary law?


IOW, since so few are performed, why is it necessary to create more restrictive laws?


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Registered: 08-31-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:34am


I love this expression. Makes me think of Benton Fraser (sigh...)


baby siggy
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Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:40am

"Why create unnecessary law?"


Unnecessary law? There are so many unnecessary laws that some of them would make you laugh.


www.dumblaws.com


We are not talking about an unnecessary law, we are talking about human life. There must be a law to protect the fetus at a certain point of development. (It may be so that certain states have restrictions, but there is none in Canada.) If this law is not going to effect many , like you claim, why is their so much opposition towards it?


Keep in mind that I think we've all agreed that their should be no restrictions on abortions for medical reasons.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:45am

"Do you believe it's wrong if the alternative is the death of both the mother and fetus?"


I believe I have already established that if death were imminent the mother's life

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Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:49am

"It depends what country you are in. Here in the UK, you cannot get an abortion after 24 weeks unless there is something seriously wrong with you and/or the fetus. That's a restriction."


Yes, it is a restriction and that's exactly what I'm talking about. If you can get an abortion after 24 weeks in the UK if something is wrong with you or the fetus (this apparently, according to some, is the likely reason for late abortions) why is there such a resistance to making it a law?

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Registered: 08-31-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:54am

baby siggy
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Registered: 08-31-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:55am


I'm sorry, I don't understand. There isn't any resistance to making it a law - it IS the law.


baby siggy
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Registered: 05-11-2006
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 11:57am

“”I agree that there are certain medical situations that the mothers health should come first i.e. the mothers life is in jeopardy, the fetus will most likely die. It would never be my wish to choose the fetuses life over the mothers life. But like you mentioned the percentage of abortions performed for this reason are extremely low.

Lori
**Navy Wife to Eddie since Dec 2002**

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Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 12:05pm

"Presumably, therefore, you retract your previous statement about one exception being too many?"


Presumably nothing! I said I used to be PL. I am no longer (and just to add I am definitely not PC). Many people that are PL do not agree with abortion even in cases of rape or incest. They believe that there are many options to people available in these circumstances that would allow the pregnancy to continue (ie. community resources, adoption). PLers even believe that frozen embryos should be protected.


If your going to believe in something don't be half assed about it. Do it with all of your convictions. Thats why I am on neither side of the debate.


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Registered: 04-10-2003
Thu, 03-13-2008 - 12:07pm
There are some instances where fetal anomalies (structural complications, etc.) that either cannot be detected or have not been detected until later in the pregnancy. Also, with an amniocentesis being done at roughly 16 weeks to look for chromosomal anomalies, with 2 weeks for the final DNA assay to get the more conclusive results, add another week for pre-admission testing and scheduling- you're looking at about 19 weeks or more right there.
So in cases for abortion for fetal defect, they may not get that data until much later in the pregnancy than the first trimester.
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