Forgive me if it's been posted before, but are there any on here that anyone disagrees with?
< Is the unborn fully human?>
It is not. It is using another's body to continue it's existence, in a way that no born human does.
Therefore it is not fully human until it is born and no longer a direct impact and possible threat to its mother's body.
<< Is the unborn fully human?>>
Of course they're fully human. If they weren't that would suggest DNA mixing and we are probably best to leave that alone. My issue is are they a *person* and therefore granted all the same rights as the person they are living in. And I keep coming back to No. Until viability the fetus is fully dependent on the good will of the mother. Legally personhood is not granted to a fetus before viability and the number of post viability abortions is really very small indeed.
I won't feel the weight of any argument to change my mind. My mind is made up for my personal circumstances and I feel every woman deserves the same respect. Because once we start disrespecting a woman's autonomy over her own body then we're back sliding again.
Hi, englishrose -
I genuinely appreciate your willingness to discuss this issue in spite of passionate disagreement with me.
<I genuinely appreciate your willingness to discuss this issue in spite of passionate disagreement with me.>
It's my pleasure. You're a polite poster, and your points are interesting to read and respond to.
No, it doesn't. Could, by some indirect means, cannot be compared to will, by direct means.
That is true. However, the one who seeks to take away the right of the woman to abort for whatever reason *do not* have to suffer the consequences.
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Hi, publius. You're obviously a polite, seasoned debater. I've enjoyed reading your posts. Here is one of your points I wanted to respond to -
My answer is that I would happily see them go broke. It's a well known fact that slaveowners forced their women slaves into pregnancy and childbirth.
The risks inherent in pregnancy are what gives a woman the right to choose gestation or abortion. Nobody else can make that choice for her, because nobody else will have to deal with the short and long term consequences. >>>>
ITA - thanks for finding the words I was having trouble expressing, this is exactly what I wanted to say.
Yep, there are lots of us. I bonded fine with Faith & Gabriel..but I think Lexi was a year and a 1/2 before I really bonded with her....especially after Angel, I think it took me THAT long to REALLY be convinced that Lexi wasn't gonna die too. But I think that process made bonding with Gabriel that much easier .