Universal Health Care Reduces Abortions

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Universal Health Care Reduces Abortions
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Tue, 03-16-2010 - 2:08pm

"Countless arguments have been advanced for and against the pending bills to increase health-care coverage. Both sides have valid concerns, which makes the battle tight. But one prominent argument is illogical. The contention that opponents of abortion should oppose the current proposals to expand coverage simply doesn't make sense.

How health care discourages abortion
Increasing health-care coverage is one of the most powerful tools for reducing the number of abortions -- a fact proved by years of experience in other industrialized nations. All the other advanced, free-market democracies provide health-care coverage for everybody. And all of them have lower rates of abortion than does the United States."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/12/AR2010031202287.html

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Thu, 04-08-2010 - 5:03pm

Money is like air. It doesn't matter, unless you haven't got enough.

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Fri, 04-09-2010 - 10:08am

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But you talk like the two are mutually exclusive and they are not.

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Sat, 04-10-2010 - 11:20pm

you are absolutely right when you say that the decision is ALWAYS personal. I was only saying that you shouldn't always assume that that is the one and ONLY or even MAJOR reason why a woman may or may not abort.

For the sake of argument say a woman did do it only for the sake of money say that was her sole motive or major motive say it was I'm willing to accept that. I realize that there maybe people out there who do not think twice about it I'm even willing to acknowledge that there are women out there who do not agonize for a moment about having an abortion and for them I say that it couldn't happen soon enough.

I would have to say that even if her medical bills were paid great and birth is a one time thing but guess what? that will never be the only medical bill incurred in a lifetime by that mother and child I can pretty much guarantee it. You say that maybe she will find a way to pay for the baby but, should she have to? Should a baby be expected to live like that? There are other options besides abortion and if abortion is best for the mother then i say more power to her but hey just because one has their medical bills paid does not mean that one SHOULD have another kid.

I realize this is my opinion but it is what it is I see a UHC system paying for medical bills i see better healthcare for everyone and believe me I see the greatness of a system like that.I also see that if you were right and some women a significant number of women chose to have the baby instead of abort it,I see over population growing not decreasing, I see poverty still being a problem, I see kids still being unwanted and neglected and I see more of them simply because it is easier to have them.

Yes, I see good and bad coming from this type of scenario.Does it mean that because this COULD become a problem that we SHOULDN'T have it at all? No. I just don't see depriving others outside of pregnancy and prenatal care NOT benefiting because of a moral question.

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Sun, 04-11-2010 - 3:39am

~I also see that if you were right and some women a significant number of women chose to have the baby instead of abort it,I see over population growing not decreasing, I see poverty still being a problem, I see kids still being unwanted and neglected and I see more of them simply because it is easier to have them.~

I just wanted to offer that my country (Canada) has UHC, but has a lower birth rate than the US (1.58 vs 2.04).

European countries also have UHC, and also have a lower birth rate per capita than does the US. For ex., Spain (1.31), Italy (1.31), Greece (1.37), Austria (1.39), Germany (1.41), Switzerland (1.45), Sweden (1.67), etc..

(eta Canada and most of Europe also have lower abortion rates per capita than does the US.)

Kate




Edited 4/11/2010 3:42 am ET by oh.dear
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Sun, 04-11-2010 - 2:15pm
Completely OT--how many aliases do you have hon? (In the good way I'm asking. You seem to have a different one every time I get on here.)

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Sun, 04-11-2010 - 9:28pm

From 1997 to about 2004 I used the same one, but make up new ones now and then these days for fun :) I try to make sure that people know it's me (same character in the profile, my name often, etc.).

Kate (who clearly needs to get out more lol)

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