video called 180

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Registered: 10-27-2011
video called 180
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Thu, 07-26-2012 - 12:38am

Anyone who is not pro life should watch the video 180. It changed me and they way I think.

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Registered: 02-16-2012
Thu, 07-26-2012 - 11:39am

What in the world??!? This video is trying to say that the murder of 11 million people in the Holocaust is comparable to abortions?!?! That is CRAZY. I'm not even Jewish and I'm highly offended.

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Registered: 10-27-2011
Fri, 07-27-2012 - 12:33am

That is right how is it any different? Why is it called murder to take another life of someone who has been living on this earth but it is not murder when you take the life of an unborn child ? They both have a heart that beats right!!  Please tell me why you feel offended?

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Sun, 07-29-2012 - 12:05am
Because one was a systematic genocide and the other is, admittedly, an unfortunate result of women having the ability to take charge of their medical decisions.

It's ironic. You know, the Nazis forced some Jews to undergo medical conditions and procedures in the name of research. Not terribly unlike people who force women to endure unwanted pregnancies (and the medicsl procedures inherent therein). If you think I shouldn't be able to decide what procedures I should or should not go through, what procedures can I force you to endure? Can I force you to donate a kidney to someone who needs it? Should I be allowed to?




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Registered: 10-27-2011
Sun, 07-29-2012 - 1:14am

Holly it is not for me or for any human to decide. Abortion is murder and in the ten commandments not committing murder is one of them. There are a lot of other options besides abortion as we all know .But it is only the selfish who make the choice to take the abortion route. If a pregnancy is unwanted then maybe those whom do not want to get pregnant should not have unprotected sex or have their tubes tied. I am a donor and would gladly give another human life.Procedures I am not scared of. Other people taking life of innocent people or babies is sad and scary.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Sun, 07-29-2012 - 11:14am
Tubal ligation is less effective than the pill. I wouldn't rely on it. And since I've got pregnant while using two forms of contraception, I think that assumption gets blast-ended too.

I am scared of procedures. My last pregnancy ended Five weeks early because, you know, dying is such a major drag. Tell me, who gets to decide what long-term physical ailments I get to live with, or whether I live or not, if not me?

Besides, since I'm not a Christian, why should I be subject to Christian rules? This isn't a theocracy.




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Registered: 10-27-2011
Sun, 07-29-2012 - 11:52pm

Okay so I have a question..So if you don't believe in God then what do believe in? and why? How do you believe man kind got here? I am just wondering. I was not raised in a Christian home when I was young it was something I researched myself as I grew older. I do know that not all contraception works..I have two children out of five in which my contraception failed but I believe that those two children were ment to be here and they have purpose..they are wonderful little human beings and I can not imagine not having them.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Mon, 07-30-2012 - 5:24pm
I believe in mankind's basic goodness. I believe that evolution is probably correct.

I'd like to believe that any surprise pregnancy would be a delight for me, even if the circumstances weren't ideal. But I'd be too worried that I would die. Having pre-eclampsia twice is too many, which is why I am actively trying to avoid any chance of pregnancy. And also why I continue to be ardently pro-choice. I would be horrified if it got to be someone else's decision for me to endure a pregnancy that would almost certainly end the way the last one did (early, because they were concerned I was about to have a stroke). Luckily my son suffers no long-term harm, but I do. If I did get pregnant again by accident, I would probably continue the pregnancy, against my doctor's recommendation. But that really needs to my decision.




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Registered: 10-27-2011
Mon, 07-30-2012 - 9:44pm

I can understand your concern with your health regarding pre-eclampsia..I had that with my first child, my blood pressure went through the roof! My doctor had to induce me early due to the threat of my health. I also understand about ending a pregnancy because it may end your life,but I don't get why some women use this as a form of birth control or they simply just don't like the circumstance they are under so they make a choice to end the life of an unborn child for selfish reasons. I am sorry all you had to go through to have your son and I am sure that he is the highlight of your life and I am glad he is okay. I am sorry you suffered lasting effects due to compilations from pre-eclampsia. I wish you well!!!

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Tue, 07-31-2012 - 11:07pm
I don't understand it, either. But I recognize that it must be their decision.




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Thu, 08-02-2012 - 12:28pm

Abortion is a singular choice.  Any woman for any reason or none has the right to control their body.  The  forcing of women to carry unwanted offspring is slavery.

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