Ways to reduce abortion?

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Ways to reduce abortion?
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Sun, 01-13-2008 - 11:08pm

I know PL are working to reduce abortion, limit abortion and end abortion.

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 9:45am

lol, High horse?

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 11:04am

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 11:07am

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And how are those relevant to infant adoption at birth?

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I wasn't the one here intimating I was- but I was rebutting your inference of my ignorance.

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Infer what you will, but I won't divulge family matters that those involved prefer to keep private. That you give no credence scarcely bothers me, as I do indeed know my facts.

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Abortion IS one form of birth control. It's not the best, but facts are: it is. I'd much prefer to see women wait to have sex when they are in a position to handle the consequences in the best way, but when they are unable in many ways including financially to care for their offspring, I think abortion is the most sensible choice they can make. I prefer to see a society which does not subsidize generational welfare and reward that lack of responsiblity with greater benefits.

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And perhaps abortion would have created a shorter list, eh?


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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 12:11pm

It is new borns that people are waiting to adopt - abortion would not have alleviated that way in any way.

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 12:28pm

I'm not going to comment on your situation or that of your family. That gets way too personal and opens up too many cans of worms.

But I'll give you an example from life - some people with whom I m friends with their family:

• son got girl pregnant when she was 15 , he 18. son never finished high school (but managed to get EGD) , nor did girl. neither had jobs. girl has never gotten one. he's had them, quit because he's an a-hole or been fired. the had another 2 years later. broke up for umpteenth time. she oges on to have 3 more with a new guy and is pregnant with six. she's only 21 and doesn't "believe" in birth control or sterilization
• son still jobless, never pays support. girl, is going with another unemployed man. they are all on welfare, Medicaid,WIC
• they are homeless, moved to suburb and live in a home with another family- violating the housing codes set out by the city by-laws. they will soon move to another freind's home to "camp out" for a month or so

Should she have had these kids in my opinion? No. What do I think she should have done?

1.) used contraception
2.) abstained
3.) aborted.
4.) had the children adopted out at birth. would have been easy- healthy little white kids

I don't like having hard-earned tax dollars paying for her to pop out one misbegotten kid after the next. the kids are living in squalor and have a high chance of ending up in the same situation as her statistically. so while I continue to fork out thousands in health care deductibles, our money is subsidizing their health care. While I bust my hump working to pay for my son's college tuition so he can be a contributing member of society, my tax dollars are paying for the Pell grants that go to the son of these kids who doesn't pay support- and I'm sure the girl qualifies for a free ride education as well.

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With that we can agree, but I will add that I'd far rather pay for abortions than generations of welfare recipients having more children than they can support. I'd rather see my money paying to help people like YOU who have adopted kids from bad situations change their lives- than to leave them in situations where the rewards are greater for continuing to have them, but they lack the care.


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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 1:06pm

On all

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 1:10pm

Goodness. That didn't take long:


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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 1:22pm

um, generalizing is making fun of a faith or those within it as a whole.

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 1:32pm

And when that happens, you'll have a point.

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Tue, 01-15-2008 - 1:39pm

lol, when did I question your faith?

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