Ways to reduce abortion?

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Sun, 01-13-2008 - 11:08pm

I know PL are working to reduce abortion, limit abortion and end abortion.

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 2:45pm

I'm sorry, I was unclear.

Could you please tell me which of your links provide actual statistics showing that hate crimes against Christians are not prosecuted. Several of your links are op-eds which are not really of use in our discussion. Also, a blog from an anti-Christian person does not translate into overall Christian persecution in the US. I freely grant that every religion and ideology has some people that hate it and say nasty things about it. Your point (I believe) is that Christianity is particularly targeted.

Again, as with all art, some people like a film and some people don't. Some people attack it and some people defend it. The fact that this dialogue exists in no way backs up your notion that Christians are persecuted. Indeed, Christians have shouted very loudly against films like Harry Potter which carry no anti-Christian or anti-God message at all.

I submit for your consideration the possibility that you feel it because you expect to feel it. The Bible says Christians will be hated, and so some Christians seek out that feeling, even if it is rare.

What do you think of Wiccans being forbidden to put their religious symbol on a dead Wiccan soldier's grave? Sikhs being physically (not verbally) attacked for wearing the turban? THAT is religious persecution. People saying they don't like your religion is not.


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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 2:47pm

Well, it would help if you provided some links in which he stated his intention NOT to 'take the nation back for Jesus', amend the constitution to comply with his idea of God's laws, pass an amendment to restrict marriage to 'God's ideal' of one man and one woman, etc.

As I said, I know little about him. I'm going on what he says about himself. If you can show me that he has recently changed his tune, I would be happy to reconsider my view.


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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 2:51pm

Agreeing, again, especially with regards to this statement: "I submit for your consideration the possibility that you feel it because you expect to feel it."


I meant to let you know, since you don't live in the country and I'm not sure how familiar you are with some of the media, that sources such as Worldnetdaily and CWFA (Concerned Women for America) do exactly that.

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 3:03pm

I have posted over and over, I believe all religion deserves the SAME and equal respect.

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 5:47pm

She didn't say he was Muslim. She said he had Muslim roots which is true.

Actually, the other day I got one of those annoying chain letters about how the writer of the chain letter thought we all should beware because Obama was actually Muslim and just pretending to be a Christian and wouldn't it be terrifying if a Muslim was president??

Please pass this on to 10 people in the next 24 hours etc. etc. LOL

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 6:00pm
People are so dumb, aren't they?

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 6:37pm
I know. But he was born of a Muslim father and raised by a Muslim step-father, and people can't get past that. That is keeping many votes out of his pocket. (I prefer Edwards, but I'll take Obama if Edwards isn't the man)

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 6:39pm
Yes, I knew that- but I highly doubt that Islam wants to put governments back in "Christ's" hands.

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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 6:42pm

Here's an interesting article on Obama:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp


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Fri, 01-18-2008 - 11:10pm

"People are so dumb, aren't they? "

I think what it mostly has to do with is FEAR. When people are scared of something it makes them irrational and ya sometimes pretty dumb, especially when it is combined with ignorance. Unfortunately, my FIL is one of those people that sends me "Fear Chain Letters" a lot... You know the kind that "Chicken Little's" pass on to each other. It makes me feel kind of sorry for him.

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