What about our feelings & emotions????

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What about our feelings & emotions????
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Fri, 02-22-2008 - 10:45pm

I see a whole lot of people talking very eloquently about the physical and biological aspects of abortion.

 

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Registered: 10-11-2005
Sat, 03-08-2008 - 8:18pm

>Oh, and "pro abortion warriors"?

I don't know anyone who is pro abortion. And I'm a mommy, not a warrior. :)

I'd rather describe one another respectfully, if that's okay with you.<

I agree with you, I'm another PC who has never had a abortion, and never will, don't like being called a baby killer (been caller a murder by one of less then friendly PL'er for removing my dear mother from life support when she was dieing and this was per my mother request of never being put on life support, it was done by my grandmother not my sister or I)

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Sat, 03-08-2008 - 10:29am
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Registered: 05-26-2006
Fri, 03-07-2008 - 9:15pm

Lets put all the crap aside and get to the TRUTH of WHY you want women to be shown images of abortions. You use "information" and "education" as a guise....but it is NOT your true objective....nor the true objective of ANY pro-lifer who advices such tatics(we have seen them before). What you REALLY REALLY want is to put as many roadblocks as is possible in a womans way....you want to guilt her, shame her, fear her, and disgust her into gestation by any means nessicary. Forced childbirth via coersion and guilt accomplished by making her watch abortion videos.


Don't fool yourself....what you really want is for women to suffer for thier choice. You want them to see these videos so that they don't go through with abortion (which may be the best choice for them) and if they do go through with abortion they feel REALLY really

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Thu, 02-28-2008 - 10:43pm

My question/post is not intended as a "trick question", but rather a seeking of clarification.

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Registered: 02-04-2008
Thu, 02-28-2008 - 10:10pm

Your question is a trick question based on how things ALREADY are that way.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Thu, 02-28-2008 - 6:33pm

Hello Angil:


Would you mind answering my post #331 in this thread?

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Thu, 02-28-2008 - 12:25pm

"If I really thought a law would solve the abortion issue I would get behind it but both history and current stats from other countries say this is not the case."

Yeah, it's kind of like the idea that you can stop teenagers from having sex by not allowing them to learn how to prevent pregnancy.

"The problem when we start legislating morality it WHOS morality do we legislate."

And with our luck, it would be the morality of the woman I saw posting on another board a couple of days ago. She posted that she worried about getting a tubal ligation because it sometimes leads to an ectopic pregnancy, which she would not abort (even to save her life) because it was murder. Creepy.

"Today we have outlawed cocaine (among other substances) and again it is a moral based law. Has making it illegal gotten rid of cocaine? I don't think so. In face as far as I can see all it did was give people with a completely different moral set than I have a LOT of money."

The only difference is it's not regulated, so it can have all kinds of stuff added to it (I think I read something about chlorine) with no way of knowing that it's been tainted. I think that coke is a bad idea, but making it illegal does not make it go away.

"If abortion docs were really in it ONLY for the money then they should be lobbying to make abortion illegal. That way they will make WAAAAY more money off truly desperate woman AND they won't have to pay taxes."

On top of that, they won't have to worry about having a degree in medicine or anything to practice- just some medical equipment and a table. I am careful to point out that very few back-alley abortion doctors were like Dr. Larch.




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Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 02-28-2008 - 7:06am

>>Making abortion illegal does not get rid of abortion. <<

ITA. If I really thought a law would solve the abortion issue I would get behind it but both history and current stats from other countries say this is not the case.

The problem when we start legislating morality it WHOS morality do we legislate.

Once upon a time society enacted prohibition. That was a morally based law. But there were people who did not share those morals so they continued to make and sell booze at a VERY handsome profit.

Today we have outlawed cocaine (among other substances) and again it is a moral based law. Has making it illegal gotten rid of cocaine? I don't think so. In face as far as I can see all it did was give people with a completely different moral set than I have a LOT of money.

Heck even murder which we can almost all agree is wrong has not been eradicated by making it illegal. People are still profiting handsomely off the trade.

If abortion docs were really in it ONLY for the money then they should be lobbying to make abortion illegal. That way they will make WAAAAY more money off truly desperate woman AND they won't have to pay taxes.




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Thu, 02-28-2008 - 4:47am

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Thu, 02-28-2008 - 4:21am


You're conflating a couple of conversations. I'm not talking about UHC or parental notification at this point. I am simply asking if you would stop trying to make abortion illegal based on your stated view that we should all focus our attention on education. Doesn't that mean PL too? Or are you saying that PC should all focus on education so that PL can nip in and take abortion rights while we aren't looking?



I'm not aware of any nation where there are no limitations on abortion.



Maybe you can see then, why PCers are loath to just ditch our cause in favour of the one you think we should be working toward.


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