What do you all think of this?

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What do you all think of this?
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Thu, 06-19-2003 - 10:47am
I'm sure many of you know this story, just wondering what you all think of it. How it feels to read the words of a person who is a botched abortion that survived. As far as "bias," it's from house.gov, so I accept it as accurate accounting of her testimony.

As a warning to those who will be offended, there is a good amount of Christian and Bible references, but they aren't my words - they're hers.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary/jess0720.htm

-Deb

 

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Thu, 06-19-2003 - 11:07am
talk about a tough time. the poor girl. anyway, as far as i'm concerned it goes to proove (yet again) that we rely too heavily on doctors opinion of who will live and who won't, who will be able to walk, and who won't... clearly this woman beat the odds and did all the things (according to the doctors) that she should never have been able to do, living being the first on the list.

i'm not critisising doctors abilities, just saying that it's not an exact science and there is no such thing as a 100% definate diagnosis or prognosis in medicine.

it was certainly an enlightening article.

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Registered: 06-17-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 4:12pm
i don't see a reason why the mother had an abortion at seven months, maybe i missed it?? either way, i don't support that kind of abortion because the baby is so far along and there are some premature babies born out there not too much older than that who can survive, therefore i consider it a life at that stage in development. i don't think abortions should be performed that late unless its a medical emergency. fortunately, that's not the majority.
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 4:49pm
I would appreciate some clarification about what "Choice" really is. I have read quite a few posts on this board that go over and over the belief that a woman has a right to choose whether she wants to be pregnant or not. Not once have I read one of them say that they can/should only be able to make that choice during the first trimester. If it really is only about the right of a woman to make a choice about her body, then abortion should be available to her right up until the time of delivery of the baby (or fetus as most PCrs like to call them). If it is about choice then a woman who is 37 weeks pregnant should be able to (and legally can) walk into a clinic and ask for the pregnancy to be terminated. If it really is about personal choice for the mother, then you can't go getting squeamish about the age/development of the baby when the pregnancy is terminated. I know that we are talking about a very small number of late term abortions, but in my eyes 1 is an appalling number.

I would also like to add that I think using the word "choice" when discussing a majority of the abortions is very misleading. Women make this "choice" because they feel pressured and feel they have no other options. They have been told by family/friends/boyfriends that they will not be supported in parenting the child. They have been threatened with abandonment, abuse, and homelessness if they carry their pregnancies to term. The fact is, very few of us will ever know the tremendous amount of stress that these women endure. How many teenage girls have abortions because their parents force them too? Legally they can't, but their aren't many teenage girls who feel strong enough and confident enough to stand up and fight their parents in court. The point I am trying to make is that oftentimes women "choose" abortion because they feel there is no other way and it is legal and available. They don't personally want to have an abortion and they will live with the effects of it the rest of their lives. You aren't just defending strong, confident women who are just trying to make the right decisions about their bodies. You are defending parents and fathers who don't want to take responsibility for an unplanned pregnancy and who manipulate and control the woman into ending her pregnancy.

Kristin

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 8:11pm
Yes, I've heard her story...sad. Unfortunately, pc'ers won't give her much, if any credit...don't know why...maybe because she's a living, breathing testimony? I don't know, but a 7 month "fetus" is more than "just" a fetus.
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Registered: 06-11-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 9:41pm
I have to wonder why her mother was advised to have an abortion 23 years ago so late in the pregnancy. I ahve to wonder if the cerebral palsy was in fact caused by the abortion procedure or if that was why her mother was advised to abort? could they ahve even been able to tell that so long ago? I also would have tothink that she might ahve been put up to testifying to help further the PL cause and was used......possibly?it doesn't ahcnge the fact that a woman's private medical decisions are that, prvate and no one should be in the Dr's room but her and the Dr....not the government or PL.
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Registered: 03-21-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 10:03pm
Do tell, exactly how do they detect CP? It's caused by damage to the brain. How does that show up in any prenatal test? You wonder because you want to justify abortion no matter what.

Kim 

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Thu, 06-19-2003 - 10:40pm
CP is caused by damage to the brain, often due to oxygen deprivation during labor & delivery. CP cannot be diagnosed in an unborn child, see the following link: http://gait.aidi.udel.edu/res695/homepage/pd_ortho/clinics/c_palsy/cpweb.htm#RTFToC8

 

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Registered: 06-11-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 11:31pm
get over yourself please.

I am asking because I seriously do not know. that is why I asked, i was hoping someone would tell me more about it since i do not know.

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Registered: 06-11-2003
Thu, 06-19-2003 - 11:32pm
thank you for understanding that i do not know what causes cerebral palsy and if it could evg been a genetic caused problem or only with oxygen deprivation or what.

thank you

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Fri, 06-20-2003 - 12:50am
No problem. I didn't know either until I looked it up recently for an unrelated issue.