What should happen??

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What should happen??
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Sat, 06-13-2009 - 5:22am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD97OVJ4PNw

An interesting video asking PL if abortion was made illegal and what the penalty should be.

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Registered: 01-15-2008
Thu, 06-18-2009 - 11:53pm

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Honestly I think your right 2 is abuse if they were both completely elective, but


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Thu, 06-18-2009 - 11:58pm

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Where's the choice in that?


To say you either gestate future PGs or get a Tubal is still giving them a choice ...the only thing it's forcing IMO is a woman to be more careful with her reproductive health and perhaps rethink her method of BC...which is another CHOICE here...find a method of BC that WORKS so you don't have to keep having abortions...but if your not going to do that...then your choices are gestation or tubal.



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Registered: 03-07-2008
Fri, 06-19-2009 - 5:54am
Because your definition of morality and hers aren't the same. Forced sterilization is as punitive as forced gestation IMO.
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Fri, 06-19-2009 - 8:35am

"I have a right to drink (since I'm of legal drinking age), but does that also mean that I have a legal right to drink and drive"


Drinking and driving runs the very real risk of injuring and/or killing others, as well as damaging public and private property. Therefor, your right to drink is protected. Your right to drink and drive is curtailed, because it has the possibility of infringing upon the rights and safety of others. Abortion? 1, 2, 20... As long as it's your uterus and YOUR uterus only that is going through the procedure, it doesn't effect anyone else's rights or safety.


"So the cops shouldn't be allowed to pull me over because that violates my rights."


Your rights end when they impede (or threaten to impede) upon the rights of others.


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Registered: 04-03-2005
Fri, 06-19-2009 - 8:42am

"If you writr enough bad checks NO bank will give you a checking account and you go into check systems."


Okay... But, writing bad checks is ILLEGAL. Why? Because it's essentially theft. You write a check you know that you personally don't have the cash to cover, so you allow the institution to cover it. Essentially, you're stealing money. Theft. That impeded upon the rights of others.


"minimal personal information just that "Jane Doe" has had abortions at X, Y, and Z clinics in thre past."


Aside from the fact that it's still not going to happen, because it impedes upon the right to privacy, and would go against HIPPA... Monitering with minimal personal information is just as equally a bad idea. Lets say that your idea worked. What would happen without the detailed information of "Jane Doe's abortion at Y clinic was due to severe fetal defects." or "Jane Doe had an abortion at Z clinic because the pregnancy started to catastrophically impact her health."?


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Registered: 02-06-2009
Fri, 06-19-2009 - 8:55am


I understand how you feel. I'm also appalled by women who have tons of abortions, but what can we fairly do to stop it? I think these rare abuses are the price we have to pay for freedom of choice.


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Fri, 06-19-2009 - 8:59am

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Registered: 01-15-2008
Fri, 06-19-2009 - 9:14am

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First...thanks for only copying half the sentance...it takes the whole thing out of context ;)


Second.....according to PLers Abortion does exactly the same as Drinking and Driving.


Third...If you're just walking down the street really Hammered cops can pull you over and put you in jail. Walking down the street hammered doesn't put anyones life in Jeopardy...and yet you can still go to jail, especially as a repeat offender.


So you support one persons choice to be able to do whatever they want with thier body but not anothers....interesting.



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Registered: 08-15-2008
Fri, 06-19-2009 - 9:15am

So women under your system, would lose the right to have their medical records private?

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Registered: 01-15-2008
Fri, 06-19-2009 - 9:21am
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"If you writr enough bad checks NO bank will give you a checking account and you go into check systems."


Okay... But, writing bad checks is ILLEGAL. Why? Because it's essentially theft. You write a check you know that you personally don't have the cash to cover, so you allow the institution to cover it. Essentially, you're stealing money. Theft. That impeded upon the rights of others. >>


Not entirely true...people have wond up on check systems for trusting that thier paycheck was deposited and having the bank attempt to re-cash bad checks multiple times.


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Aside from the fact that it's still not going to happen, because it impedes upon the right to privacy, and would go against HIPPA... Monitering with minimal personal information is just as equally a bad idea. Lets say that your idea worked. What would happen without the detailed information of "Jane Doe's abortion at Y clinic was due to severe fetal defects." or "Jane Doe had an abortion at Z clinic because the pregnancy started to catastrophically impact her health."?>>


I don't understand how knowing hoe much cold medicine I buy isn't violating my right to privacy but knowing how many abortions I have is. Seriously! Just sayin'!


At any rate say my idea worked there would be a system in place to distinguish medically necessary abortions from purely elective ones. I mean I doubt a majority of the women who are having medically necessary abortions are doing it at Planned Parenthood ;)



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