When do you consider the 'quickening'

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When do you consider the 'quickening'
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Fri, 06-26-2009 - 2:09pm
'Quickening' is a term used
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Fri, 06-26-2009 - 3:42pm

<'Quickening' is a term used

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Fri, 06-26-2009 - 5:29pm

I do. I think that a child does, indeed, choose who their parents will be. But I think the spirit isn't really "in" the body until the body is here. Does that make sense?


I believe that before we are born, we make plans beforehand. A general blueprint of the sort've life we want to experience. In the case of abortion, I think that spirit just goes back into the Other Realm, until it finds another situation suitable for them. I guess that's why I don't think of abortion as murder.

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Fri, 06-26-2009 - 7:00pm

That's exactly how I feel too. A soul cannot be murdered, just it's mission to get here through that vessile, aborted.

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Fri, 06-26-2009 - 7:18pm

I pretty much agree with both of you.
I feel a *soul*- or call it a life force,an energy- whatever- chooses its incarnations. And if it chose to inhabit an embryo or fetus (not sure when it gets there, LOL!), it prolly was complicit in that path on an all-knowing level. If you were meant to have a lifetime with that soul- it'll come back.

I'm not sure if either of you know my story- but our eldest, Nicholas, was struck with brain damage back in 1987 when he reacted adversely to his DPT vaccines. I can answer any questions and flesh anything out- so ask away- but most ladies here have heard my story too many times, LOL!. Long story short, he was left with cerebral palsy, cortical atrophy (the cortex of his brain basically turned mushy with the encephalitic type of infection he suffered). HE had spastic quadriparesis (all of his limbs were so stiff, they contracted refelxively), he had sever GE reflux and gastritis, was non-ambulatory and non-verbal, used a wheelchair and needed hand-over-hand 24/7 care. HE had surgeries for contractures- the last of which was a hip osteotomy and adductor tenotomy on his hip and legs, followed by a SPICA cast (from arm pits to toes with a bar tpo spread his legs about 20" apart) for 6 0189 wks. When they went in to remove the pin in his hip and cast surgically, he must have gotten bacteria in there- he died of septic shock 2 wks later, very suddenly.
We had a 4 yr old son at the time (Chris). We almost lost our marriage to the grief- but we made it.
We went on to have Alexandra 5 yrs later (She's 10 now) and Zachary 2 yrs after that (he's 8).
Zachary has sounded like Nicholas, looks like Nicholas, acts and has the personality of Nicholas. And now - he even has GE reflux like his bro, LOL!
Recently I had a psychic freind in Florida examine their pix. I have always suspected that Nicholas came back. Muy Mom and I used to occasionally have dreams where we saw or held Nick. They weren't the regular dreams of him- these were ones where we woke up knowing we had touched in the night. And he'd show us he could then walk, talk, etc.
But the dreams stopped when Zachary was born.
We had trees we got for Nicholas and Christopher when they were 3 and 1 respectively- blue spruces.
Chris's always grew healthy and strong. Nick;s didn't. And when Nicholas died, it stopped growing. Don't you know when Zachary was born- SEVEN years later- it started growing again?

(Unfortunately, said tree didn't survive my DH's killing off the grass to re-seed 2 yrs ago, LOL!)

Anyhow- sorry so long-winded- but yeah- our souls have been around for a very long time, in my estimation!

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Fri, 06-26-2009 - 10:19pm

I feel a lot like you except I feel some *souls* do chose to come at earlier points and *experience* the death so they can bring those memories to the next life.


I believe firmly though that Gabriel is some sort of version of Angel reborn.


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Sat, 06-27-2009 - 2:15pm
Isn't that a wonderful story! ( not the pain and suffering you all went through). Well , I fully believe you got your son back!
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Sat, 06-27-2009 - 2:18pm
I agree with you and I also believe that the soul also chooses death early sometimes for the sake of the parents to learn from.
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Sat, 06-27-2009 - 7:15pm
I'm not sure what I believe in this regard, but my dd (adopted) believes that she may have chosen her path (disabled, muliple conditions, reliquished at birth) in order to get back to us after I miscarried a twin.
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Sun, 06-28-2009 - 12:14pm

I always believe that our lost ones somehow get back to us.


When I lost my dearest, closest cousin who was like a brother to me and we had a really close psychic bond, I imagined what it must be like to

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Mon, 06-29-2009 - 12:38pm

I didn't/dont know your story but the fact that a simple vaccine caused the death of your son ultimately has me more concerned about vaccines than I already was!!!!


And if I hadn't said it before, I am sorry for the troubles you have gone through.


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