A zygote, a fetus, a baby? Or a human?

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A zygote, a fetus, a baby? Or a human?
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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 3:03am

Forget for a second all the usual "labels" we put on a life growing inside a woman's womb.


It seems easy to disassociate oneself from thinking of it as a

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Registered: 03-07-2008
Tue, 02-03-2009 - 5:46am

<< Does a fetus only become a human when it comes out of the womb? Or is it a human once conception takes place? >>

It's a human *fetus* until it comes out of the womb. Then and ONLY then does it become a human *person*.

<< So are you saying that it is not a baby because it cannot live outside the womb?>>

Got it in one, and that's also how it's defined in law.

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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 7:13am

Sure a z/f/e is human- but that doesn't make it a legal person.

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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 8:07am
ITA! Well said.
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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 10:35am

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Lemme guess. You're vegan and have never killed a bug in your ENTIRE life! Unless both of those apply to you, then you have no room to talk.

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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 12:35pm

I wasn't asking what the law says.

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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 1:09pm
I've been around this board a long time and I haven't heard any PCers call a z/e/f a "thing". We do tend to use the proper terminology of z/e/f but that is simply because, well, it's correct.
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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 1:09pm

But then, by that definition, one can also can accuse certain forms of birth control of killing humans, however tiny they may be. And should we not then contemplate how many tiny humans get passed out of women's bodies every month with their menstrual blood?


No. I don't look at these as humans. I do look at the z/e/f as POTENTIAL humans. Until the baby is outside the mother's body, I don't think it behooves anyone to look at the z/e/f as anything but potential, not actual, life.


It is a PROTO human form. Becomes human in my mind when it can breathe, eat, etc. without relying upon mommy to do it all.


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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 1:28pm

It's kind of interesting for me that this has come up today, because

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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 1:33pm

Do you mean the IUD?


Well, if an egg is already fertilized (thus having human DNA, which means it must be, albeit very small, a human), and it settles into the uterine lining and "imbeds", then I agree that yes, and IUD would be killing a human.


Spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) is not what we are talking about.

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Tue, 02-03-2009 - 1:39pm

~I am also Pro-choice, although I would never choose to have an abortion.~

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