Another question/debate.....

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Another question/debate.....
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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 12:23pm
So many of you said that a smoking mother shouldn't bf b/c small amounts of nicotine, etc can be transferred through her bm to baby. Does that mean that mothers who must take other medications should not bf because small amounts are transmitted through breastmilk?

Some have said that nicotine is addictive so baby could become addicted. But there are also a lot of other medications that are addictive that bf'ing mothers take & are considered safe while bf - Vicodin, for example. There are also other medications that there aren't a lot of studies done on their transfer in human milk - but they are deemed safe for nursing mothers to take by the "experts" because of what we know about the properties of that medication. Even Lithium *may* be okay as long as baby is monitored (not something I would feel comfortable taking & bf'ing, personally, but for some, the risk of not bf'ing may be greater).

So - should bf'ing mothers not be able to take ANY medications because it might pass through her milk? What about alcohol? Caffiene? Should bf'ers have to adhere to a strict diet & not take any medications that may or may not be in bm or effect the baby? Even if recent research shows that it is (or may be) okay?

Michelle

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 03-31-2003 - 7:44pm
IN MY OPINION:



Hang on a minute. It is known that what the mother takes in, the baby receives through the breastmilk. Is there a question where that is concerned?? I think the question remains about the quantity and whether or not the drug builds-up in the system. With nicotine it factually does. I can't imagine one of the other 43 known carcinogens or 200 poisons don't do the same.......even just a few. THAT is what scares me. THAT risk isn't worth it to me.

Also, let's take another example: what about this bovine hormone many bf'ers claim is bad news. They won't drink milk or other things that contain it for fear of it going into the breastmilk(or just their own system) and affecting their babies, YET there is NO documented case of any problems from the bovine hormone. It is "safe."

I also believe that having the attitude of "well, let's be realistic...people are going to smoke"...is a cop out. Doesn't make it right. If I were given the choice of losing a foot or a leg......what would I choose?? How about NEITHER!! A pregnant or lactating woman should NOT smoke!!

Why not err on the side of caution where cigarettes are concerned?? Why not put the health and safety of your baby FIRST??!! It's not like there is any question regarding the safety of cigarettes. Why is there even a debate about this?? There is NO question.


christine






Edited 3/31/2003 8:47:27 PM ET by cl-sunny.side.up


~christine~

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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 7:58pm
ITA Sunny....I don't like seeing a mother who smokes giving her child her breastmilk. Period. ITA!
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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 8:54pm
What about a mother who has to take a medication (which was my original debate question here, anyway)?
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 03-31-2003 - 9:39pm
I answered that question....
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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 9:46pm
Ok......here's the deal though.

I'll use myself as an example. I take Zoloft after my pregnancies. I suffered from PPD after the birth of my first and so went on meds for both. I stayed on meds for about 7months or so each time. I also breastfed(albeit a short while;)) at that time while on Zoloft. I KNOW that Zoloft is secreted through bm. I think virtually everything is. It is the fact that Zoloft has studies upon studies upon studies of women on Zoloft. The thing is...is that Zoloft is just ONE chemical.....not 4000 like cigarettes. Zoloft doesn't contain carcinogens nor over 200 poisons. Cigarettes contain ALL OF THESE.

I still don't see the debate. How can taking a prescribed med(just ONE single chemical in most cases) be compared to a cancer-causing, poison containing, death stick?? It can't.


christine


~christine~

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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 10:41pm
Also......do you all follow the AAP's guidelines for everything?? Or do you just pick and choose?? I mean......if you use the AAP as an excuse to bf and smoke.....do you circumcise your sons?? AAP is against that practice. Do you completely vaccinate?? The AAP is for that.......and so on. I think the AAP is a great guide.....but that's where it ends. It is known that cigarettes cause cancer. Cigarettes cause cancer. Cigarette smoke causes cancer. Cigarettes contain 4000 ingredients, 200 of which are known poisons, and 43 of which are known carcinogens.

What happened to good old common sense??

FTR, I am also against the use of caffeine while pregnant or nursing. OR at all....truthfully.


christine


~christine~

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Tue, 04-01-2003 - 12:31am
I'm just going to agree with you here & go watch TV!!! You said it so well!

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