BFing moms should not drink

Community Leader
Registered: 10-01-2010
BFing moms should not drink
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Tue, 09-06-2011 - 2:53pm

Some say it is better that moms continue to BFand only drink in moderation - some wonder if mom should be drinking at all while she is BFing?

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Wed, 09-07-2011 - 5:04pm

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Wed, 09-07-2011 - 5:14pm

 


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Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 5:25pm

but now you are saying that 'more than moderate' is 7 or more drinks a week??

Yes.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 5:28pm

Community Leader
Registered: 10-01-2010
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 5:43pm
nisupulla wrote:

FAS is a very disabling condition. So I still maintain that linking drinking while breastfeeding to drinking while pregnant is very misleading.

I don't think i did that - I will go back and check though...

IIRC - the closest I could come to where you possibly thought I was linking the two was this:

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In my mind, that is not linking the two, but wondering if one day we will learn more about BFing and alcohol, just like we learned about pregnancy and alcohol. Or just like we learned about HIV and BFing. Or just like we learned about BFing and formula.

Community Leader
Registered: 10-01-2010
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 5:52pm

What jumps out at me from this:

- The risks of consuming alcohol while breastfeeding are not as well defined.

- Alcohol passes freely into mother's milk 

- It takes a 120 pound woman about two to three hours to eliminate from her body the alcohol in one serving of beer or wine...the more alcohol that is consumed, the longer it takes for it to be eliminated.

- It takes up to 13 hours for a 120 pound woman to eliminate the alcohol from one high-alcohol drink.

- The effects of alcohol on the breastfeeding baby are directly related to the amount the mother consumes.

- possible side effects if consumed in large amounts, including: drowsiness, deep sleep, weakness, and abnormal weight gain in the infant, and the possiblity of decreased milk-ejection reflex in the mother. {what is a large amount?}

- In a study of twelve breastfeeding mothers who ingested 0.3 g/kg of ethanol in orange juice (equivalent to 1 can of beer for the average-sized woman), the mean maximum concentration of ethanol in milk was 320 mg/L (5).

- This report suggests a 23% reduction (156 to 120 mL) in breastmilk production following ingestion of beer and an increase in milk odor as a function of ethanol content.

- Excess levels may lead to drowsiness, deep sleep, weakness, and decreased linear growth in the infant. Maternal blood alcohol levels must attain 300 mg/dl before significant side effects are reported in the infant {one can of beer equals 320 mg/dl in mother's milk - see above}

- Other studies have suggested psychomotor delay in infants of moderate drinkers (2+ drinks daily). 

- Up until around 3 months of age, infants metabolize alcohol at about half the rate of adults {does baby automatically metabolize alcohol as quickly as an adult at 3 months old - or is his ability still impaired compared to an adult?}

Community Leader
Registered: 10-01-2010
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 6:02pm

<<Yes.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 6:23pm

I don't think i did that

No, no. You didn't do that. It is just that when there are strong blanket statements made about drinking and nursing (such as the headline or the March of Dimes), I think it is important to note that drinking and nursing is not on par with drinking while pregnant.

Maybe someday a study will show that even a little alcohol while breastfeeding has consequences, but they are not going to be as large as the consequences of not breastfeeding at all. I imagine it is possible that somehow a little alcohol could prime the pump and lead to excessive adult drinking, but I think it is very unlikely.

BTW. I sorta made a "there will never be any issues with alcohol and breastfeeding" statement. But really it was lazy writing. I think I was unclear then. We can not say unequivicably that nursing and alcohol is perfectly fine, but we can say with certainty it can't be as bad as nursing while pregnant (FAS) or not breastfeeding (formula).

Additionally, I think we both agree that not drinking and nursing is better for the baby than drinking even a little and nursing.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 6:31pm

But the studies are saying that even one drink a day can affect the baby - what is considered moderate drinking..

I predict that if we found the actual study they would not have results for moms who had at least but not more than one drink per day, so we don't really know if that little has an effect. My guess is that the researchers chose "at least one per day" as the cut-off for moderate. I guess again that only a very few people who have "least one per day" only have the one. So the "at least 7" could very well be closer to ten.

I'll put on my internet specialist hat and see if I can find the conventional cut-off for moderate drinking for women.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 09-07-2011 - 6:50pm

I said