a bit of humour

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a bit of humour
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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 9:29pm
about the BFIP stuff...be forwarned, the 2nd link has some profane lanugage (not a lot).

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/hathor/malegaze.html

http://www.hipmama.com/view.cgi?features/gwenbreast.html

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In reply to: macbump
Wed, 04-23-2003 - 10:24pm
Hmmm......humorous?? Depends.

Honestly, I didn't care for the cartoon. It looked a little weird. Irealize it was meant to be sarcastic, and it definitely was. But, truly I don't think just because someone isn't comfortable with something they should just silently avert their eyes.


christine


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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 12:36pm
Have to agree, I didn't find it all that humorous either. There was a comment made somewhere on this board recently (sorry, can't remember where or who) about how "funny" it was to make a roomful of men uncomfortable by breastfeeding in front of them. It just made me wonder, why is that funny? Why would someone get pleasure out of making someone else uncomfortable?

I get the argument that BFing is natural, and it's the *other* person's problem if they're uncomfortable seeing it in public, but the cartoon and article posted here seem to be missing the fact that, at least in the US in the year 2003, breasts are considered very sexual by most men (and women, come to think of it). It seems as though the person who wrote that article is trying to deny a cultural fact. She may not agree that breasts are sexual *for her* (at least while she's feeding her baby), but why does that mean they are therefore not sexual for everyone else?

I don't believe it is the "fault" of men that they are attracted to breasts and may be, consequently, uncomfortable when a stranger nurses in front of them. Different cultures find different aspects of each sex attractive. For some, it's women's feet, other's it's their necks, etc. In the US, it's breasts. Don't know how to change that fact, or if it even should be changed, or rather just exist alongside the BFing moms, if that's possible. I'm just not sure the outright contempt and "aren't you such a lowbrow idiot" attitude of the author in that article is the way to go.

~Kim

"Becoming a parent means agreeing to allow your heart to go walking around outside of your body."

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 12:57pm
Just curious, did you read the essay?

There are TONNES of things we come across in our lives that make us uncomfortable. 99% of the time we just have to learn to live with it, or leave. Why should it be any different with BF? Why should society stay oppressed just on *that* level?

Fio.

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 1:09pm
Yes, I read the essay.

I saw her point.


christine


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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 1:17pm
I have to agree with you Christine...didn't find the cartoon humourous. I understood the point of the article but I didn't care for the tone. When someone starts using profanity to try and prove a point (even if it is just a few words), that person immediately loses all credibility in my eyes. That's just the way I am though.

Judi


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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 4:35pm
Okay, so I thought the cartoon was kind of funny and the essay was kind of funny...but I don't care for profanity, either. She could have made her point without doing that.
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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 5:20pm
Why should I have to sift through the profanity and the sarcasm to get the point? IMHO, when someone uses a lot of profanity it's to cover up the fact that they don't know what they are talking about.
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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 5:58pm
YK what, i must say, i agree with you on the profanity issue. i thought the general sentiment was "cute" but i'm sure she could have found better words to use.

fio

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 6:00pm
i don't like to see lots of profanity necessarily, all over the place, but i disagree on this one. sometimes people just use it to show they're fed up, but that doesn't mean they don't know a thing about what they're talking about, any more than someone using really fancy schmancy 5$ words all over the place necessarily knows what they're talking about.

fio.

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 6:04pm
yep, i agree. but some of the examples she gave were good imho.

fio nak