bottles versus disposable diapers

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bottles versus disposable diapers
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Mon, 05-26-2003 - 9:01pm
Just an idea that crossed my mind. If I said that I used cloth diapers while out, but disposables when at home, would anyone here think I was very bizarre?

I was just thinking, and realizing that one of my favourite comebacks to people who think I'm crazy for using cloth diapers b/c of the extra washing it makes for me, is to say to them "well, at least I'm not washing bottles, so I can take more time on diapers". That usually shuts them up, LOL.

Well, I was figuring that while you only wash at home, toting cloth while you're out is more work. First of all, the dipes generally take up much more room, and you have to bring more as they're less absorbant. Also, you have to bring them back when you come back, to wash them at home.

So usually, if someone uses a mix, they use disposables while out and cloth at home. I've yet to hear of someone saying they use cloth while out and 'sposies while at home. ;-)

And yet people allude to doing the same kind of "extra work" WRT nursing/bottles. They'll tote out extra stuff than necessary (ie bottles instead of using the breasts they would at home) and that stuff, some of it has to come home (empty bottles), whereas the breasts are always there and don't fill up the diaperbag unnecessarily.

Anyhow...I was just wondering if anyone else thought this was as strange as I do? Not that I feel it's bad for moms who feel like doing it, but I would certainly think I were rather crazy if I did this with diapers or probably anything else except the bottle/nursing issue...why don't we think this is as strange in this situation? Is this another case of society has set us up to "expect" to have to tote around bottles, so therefore not doing so becomes a "perk" of bfing, rather than a negative side to bottlefeeding (be it formula or EBM)? Just like a lot of people I know figure that a "perk" of bfing is that it saves money...when I just figure that it costs none, whereas formula costs lots in the first year (even if it's small amts. at a time, it still adds up)...so I see formula as having a definate drawback on the budget side of things.

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Mon, 05-26-2003 - 10:49pm
Well, it's not just the extra toting around. I'm very self conscious about my body, including my breasts. If I have a second child, and successfully BF, I do not see myself being comfortable BFIP, no matter HOW discreet I try to be. That's just my personality. So while I agree entirely that bottlefeeding (for ME) - especially on the go - can be quite inconvenient... there is much more going on than convenience. Convenience had nothing to do with my initial decision to BF, and I never gave it too much thought or worry when I had to FF in the end... It's just such a small part of the bigger picture for me.

-Deb

 

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Mon, 05-26-2003 - 11:13pm
As much stuff as I take with me for a 30min trip I'd not need to worry about cloth diapers, those are burp cloths only in this house lol

I don't know. I'm sure women of yesteryear would think some of us are weird today for packing a full big diaper bag just to go to walmart grocery shopping or to run out to get something to eat and be gone 45-hour. But I'm the type "never leave home without it, just in case".

I don't think it sounds strange come to think of it. Not at all.

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Mon, 05-26-2003 - 11:14pm
& we won't even discuss all the stuff I tote in my purse, my big purse lol
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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 9:14am
I don't know what the other FF moms think, but the toting-bottles aspect is the most annoying thing about FF. It's pretty inconvenient, and washing bottles is a pain in the butt. (I hate doing dishes.) The cost of formula is certainly another factor, but I was spending as much to rent the hospital pump when I was EP.

Then again, there's a trade-off...I can go out to the movies, go out with friends, etc. I don't have to worry about pumping so my boobs don't explode, or worry about my baby not taking a bottle! I can feed my baby anywhere, and have someone else feed her if they'd like. (Though I do prefer to feed her myself.) I know some BF moms who haven't been able to leave their babies for more than an hour or two, and they're really frustrated about it.


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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 3:50pm
My sentiments exactly. It's not about convenience, it's about what I'm comfortable with. And I do give EBM in public, which is more "work" than formula because I have to defrost it and get it warm.

It's just what makes me more comfortable. I don't have to worry about him unlatching and leaving me exposed in public, and he still gets EBM. What's so weird about that? I fail to understand why this astounds people. Anyone who sits and watches TV for 15 min. a day has time to pump. It's really no big deal. I have about 20 feedings worth of EBM in the freezer at any given time. It also represents my freedom to go to a movie w/out DS or the other things that some think BFers can't do. I've got the best of both worlds! :)

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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 4:01pm
Well, you are leaving out the very important issue of comfort levels!!! Personally, I BFIP and I CD in public, and I have no qualms with either. But, when my son was younger (he's 6 months now), I was fairly uncomfortable with BFIP, so I took bottle of BM along when I went out. It was certainly more of a hassle to pump, bring a bottle along, wash it, etc, but totally worth it to me at that time. And, much easier at that time. Now that my son can latch on fine and I can nurse easily, I nurse in public without problems. I also use CDs while out too, though, and don't really find it to be more work.

Melanie

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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 4:37pm
I used cloth nappies with my second child and used them while out from the start. I wish I'd thought of keeping some disposables for that purpose! Nappy brain, I suppose. But it wasn't a problem. I'd wrap up the cloth nappy, put it in a carrier bag and then into my changing bag in a seperate pocket to be soaked when I got home. We'd buy disposables for overnight visits and holidays though.

I agree that breastmilk is the ultimate convenience food when you are out with a baby. You can go anywhere at anytime. There are no restrictions, but only if you have the confidence to do it.

That first time you BFIP can take rather a lot of guts! I wasn't bothered with my second baby, but with my third it took about 6 wks to be able to do it and I can well understand how some mothers decide they just can't. But once I'd done it that first time, I was fine and since then breastfed everywhere and anywhere! And no-one minds. But I have to say some friends of mine have been verbally attacked and this could well scare a mum off BFIP again. For example, with my first, a local solicitor (female in her 30s) walked past me as I fed my young baby. She was in her designer suit etc. She glared down at me and hissed 'slut!'. I just smiled at her because I didn't really care but I could have been extremely frightened by her if I'd been feeling less confident about what I was doing.

If mums feel the need to take bottles on outings, I perfectly understand... but in the same breath I'll add that people are not going to get used to breastfeeding if they never see it happen. I feed my baby because she needs feeding, but at the same time I do sometimes feel people are getting a positive image and experience. In that way, the way I behave in public while nursing is important to me too.

Jenny

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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 6:27pm
I haven't read any other posts, but I have to say...I had a friend or 2 who've done this! For the most part, it seemed SO odd to me, to go to all the trouble to make up EBM bottles and all the worry and work they involve...but just once or twice, I did it and found it surprisingly nice (ok, the nicest time was at...um...what's that Japanese steak house where 8-10 people you don't know are all sitting around watching the guy cook/fling food all over the grill in the middle of the table?...it was SO easy to have that baby plunked in the infant carrier in the highchair and pop a bottle in her mouth...rather than my usual "sling and boob"...).

Of course, it goes back to being embarassed about showing ones boobs or whatever....which was not a problem I ever had, but my friend who was oh-so-modest DID have.... ;)

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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 7:45pm
Do you truly not see the difference? Many women have posted here about their desire not to NIP. Why would it then be strange for them to give pumped milk in a bottle when they are out in public? Are you therefore saying that it is strange that they do not feel comfortable nursing in public? I, for one, would never do it. I have no problem with seeing another mother nurse her child in a restaurant, mall, etc. But I would not feel comfortable doing that. That isn't strange. It's simply a matter of personal preference.

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Tue, 05-27-2003 - 9:18pm
No, I understand that many people feel uncomfortable NIP (and again, I think that's just our culture reflecting back, b/c if it were a culture where people only EVER saw nursing 99.9% of the time, I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid about the idea of themself doing so too...). I was just thinking that it was odd that people would tell me that I am going to an awful lot of extra work if I decided to CD while out and DD at home, but wouldn't say anything about bottles while out and nursing at home.

:-)

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