Commitment, or lack thereof...
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Commitment, or lack thereof...
| Tue, 01-08-2008 - 1:56pm |
So I just saw something somewhere else (won't specify where, but I bet a few of you will figure it out!) where a woman indicated that she WAS planning on breastfeeding, but now because of a heated debate about it, she doesn't want to anymore.
Ummmmm, are you kidding me?


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""Neurobiologist William Frey has shown that emotional tears contain the stress hormone ACTH. The lowering of ACTH levels has a direct impact on the stress hormone cortisol. Cortisol levels are often significantly elevated in depression and have been found to increase depressive symptoms. If you decrease ACTH levels, cortisol levels also decrease. Thus crying is a way to reduce the levels of this hormone and lessen depressive feelings.""
They are talking about adults not babies. How would one know if a baby is *having* depressive feelings instead of hunger, wet or just needs a hug?
"The first is crying as a distress signal. Babies do this, and the result is that loving parents are alerted to their discomfort and feed them or rock them."
Babies are mentioned in the part about crying being a distress signal, not a means of relieving "sad feelings".
"Ezzo never once says to sleep through your baby's cries, or to sleep through anything else, for that matter"
Of course he doesn't come out and say it.
Parents who are expecting the baby to sleep through the night and are accustomed to not responding to "unscheduled" cries tend to not even hear the cries in the night. I remember one poster on the Ezzo debate board telling of spending the night with a family who used Ezzo's materials. She said that the baby woke twice(?) in the night, crying, but when she mentioned it to the parents, they denied it. They said they would have awakened if the baby had cried out at night.
Say, what is the year of print on the edition you used?
If it's the newest (2000, I think) one, he essentially preaches cue feeding and Attachment Parenting but labels it Parent Directed Feeding.
I'll see if I can find that bit and post it later.
<<<<<(Ezzo talks about letting his granddaughter scream "like a 747" for 45 minutes during one of these "training" sessions. Apparently his definition of "a little" is quite a lot!)>>
Would you like the actual quote? Really? Here it is:
"She would climb rapidly from a whimper to a wail, like an F-16 heading into the stratosphere, then at the height of her cry, she would stop abruptly and drop off into a sound sleep. Her cry times averaged ten minutes in length at naptime for the first month. After four weeks, she...became selective as to which naptimes she would cry."
Ten minutes is hardly comparable to 45. When one posts inaccurate info like this, it makes other folks not believe what one is saying ;)>>>
Actually, I don't think that's the quote I'm thinking about. I would have to go back and look it up, but I'm pretty sure it was one of his other materials. He has told this story numerous times in various seminars, etc. Apparently he has watered down a lot of his stuff for the commercial version.
And maybe this description doesn't bother you, but an INFANT who SCREAMS like a jet plane for 10 minutes before every nap for a MONTH is NOT an acceptable thing to me. Here's something to try... set a timer for 10 minutes and then scream in a comparable fashion (like a jet plane?) until it goes off. Then come back and tell me if you believe that this is a GOOD THING for a baby to be doing on a regular basis.
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Like I PPd, I cannot type out the entire article that I am referring to, but this link supports that cortisol is released in tears.
LOL I love your idea!
We should all do lots of things we do to kids before doing them to the kids...see how we like them. ;-)
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Nope! Another direct quote:
"you aren't training your child not to cry, but are training him or her in the skill of sleep. This is the only time in your baby's day that the practice of non-intervention is best.">>>
Ezzo is famous for his "double speak" and confusing messages. Feed them when they are hungry... but don't let them "snack" between meals. Be "flexible", but try to get back on the schedule as soon as possible. According to Ezzo "demand feeding" is bad... so how exactly is a parent with a baby who "demands" to eat more than every 3 hours supposed to keep her baby on the schedule without ANY crying? And since babies go down for 2 naps plus bedtime every day, this is still a LOT of unnecessary crying!
"Non-intervention" is nothing more than Ezzo-speak for "ignore your child's cries". Leave them in the crib and "don't intervene" because you are "training him or her in the skill of sleep". Why do you think that babies need to be "trained" to sleep? Do they need to be "trained" to crawl? To walk? To talk? Why is sleep such a huge issue that you have to ignore a baby's cries in order to achieve it? Do the benefits of sleep outweigh the potential harm done by being non-responsive to your baby's cries?
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Nice copout ;)
"Ezzo seems to be against feeding on demand, babywearing and co-sleeping, which are a big part of AP, I believe."
Yes, yes he is. To the point of denigrating parents who do follow AP.
"Sounds great! I have the 1995 edition, but he also uses the PDF (Parent-Directed Feeding)."
He called it "Parent *Controlled* Feeding" until the early 90s.
Anyway, I'll hunt that up and get back to you either later this evening or tomorrow.
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