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Do FFers know this risk?
| Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm |
Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."
According to the FDA, "a

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***A teacher is a psychologist as much as a pediatrician is a lactation specialist. In my opinion, of course.***
ITA! I know hey?
***Maybe I'm just ultra sensitive as prior to having my son, I thought I was never going to have a child and I hated hearing things like "Now that I'm a mother I'm finally a woman", ***
I was told upon arriving here that this board can get too emotional sometimes and not to let it get to you too personally, hope that helps.
***Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell with text. But you know it's all in how you interpret a person's words.***
The way it was explained to me today bty CLMary is that we are supposed to look for the little doo-dads such as ;) or:) or (TIC) or JK, you know, stuff like that. She said to go back and see if you missed that little doo-dad and maybe took it as sarcasm instead?
I did not see an inkling that this one was sposta be a joke or tic so I guess that leaves only one other option?
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***I will continue to insist that there is the possibility of at least one person out there that does it for show. Otherwise there would not be a fetish for breastfeeding moms, which there is. Of course, I will probably be insulted for my knowledge of the different kinds of porn, but oh well. At least I know these things.***
Fetishes......ewww....I know hey?
Don't ask,lol.
***And I will reiterate that there are trolls on iVillage.***
Yikes!! there we go again! Who *ARE* these trolls?? Troll is such a derogatory word to call a poster, what's up widdat?
***And I will reiterate that there are trolls on iVillage.***
This does sound rude to me now, I really have to say this! This is the third time now!
Who? Who are your trolls you are referring to??
You know, by a HUUUUUUGE stretch of the imagination and massive misunderstanding, I can see how people think, these days, that bresatfed *infants* are vit. D deficient. But ENers? No more than any other kid out there. And FWIW cow milk hardly supplies all that is necessary in vitamin D per day. It has about 1/8-1/10th the amount necessary or less depending on body weight.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=Dpx3LDvl0MwC&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=cow's+milk+supplies+IU+vitamin+D&source=bl&ots=NQa0_-wKNH&sig=Ml64bcX2HpCOw2YdcKMqy00vy5g&hl=fr&ei=ZqVuSvzeNZTaNrCF8dcI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7
Only 400 IU per quart which is REALLY low compared to what they are finding we should be getting optimally.
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Your, or E's D requirements have not changed from people who were born hundreds of years ago, no, not really. What has changed in the past number of months/years is the understanding of just HOW MUCH D our body needs. They are realizing that when you do the 25-OH-D blood test your levels should ideally be up over 55 ng/mL
There are skin types called Fitzpatrick, the lower the number (IIRC) the paler the skin. Here is a quote from elsewhere:
«most skin exposed, midday, to the point just before a burn would occur.
for an adult male from western africa, or with similarly pigmented
skin, that's about six hours a day *when there is sufficient UVB*
for me (fitzpatrick phototype ii-iii...western european/mediterranean
descent) it's about 50 min per day through the summer, midday, to get
truly sufficient amounts of D.
Pertinent example. Most recent friend who tested.....fitzpatrick
phototype II, classic normal european skintone - not pale
irish/scottish, but not olivey/mediterranean.
She wears no sunscreen, does camps at a nature center, runs outside
when it's not too hot (am), walks her child too/from school, gardens
in her full sun yard (hat, shorts, short sleeves), takes 400 IU in a
multi.
Her recent D test was 20something.»
This is ONLY valid during the summer sun months. Forget it in winter. You *might* get enough D *for the summer* from may-september if you're out with most skin exposed during noon-day sun without sunblock on. But it won't last you through the winter.
More from the other source (this is online, info given to someone who was just diagnosed with Breast cancer, one of those cancers that is more rare in ppl with good levels of vitamin D).
«Summer and Fall seem to offer a better prognosis after a ca diagnosis:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/cancerBreast.shtml
~ "women diagnosed with breast cancer during the summer and fall (in
the northern hemisphere, when d levels are highest) had the best
prognosis. The researchers concluded that high vitamin D levels during
the course of cancer treatment may improve the prognosis of women with
breast cancer, plus, both colon cancer and prostate cancer showed
similar improvements. "
while you're still feeling well (ie pre-chemo), max out on vitamin d,
eat as much produce as is possible, fatty fish (tuna is easy).
vitamindcouncil.org has very helpful information. do not go another
day being D deficient. while preventative is very different than
curative, the massive body of D evidence currently available, makes a
clear case for optimizing vitamin D. now. for all of us. during ca
tx it's even more important b/c of the variety of actions it has on
immune function. It might help. It might help a lot. And if it
doesn't help at all, it won't hurt.
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/researchCancer.shtml
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/cancerBreast.shtml
Vitamin D Receptors and Calcitriol
<<....snip.....the most active form of vitamin D (calcitriol)
significantly reduced the growth of breast cancer in an animal model.
.....snip.....women who had vitamin D receptor-positive tumors had
longer disease free intervals than women whose tumors had no
measurable receptors for vitamin
Current research suggests most, if not all, women would have those
vitamin D receptors unless they were deficient in vitamin D—that is,
they would have those receptors if they were vitamin D replete. It
seems as if the receptor is present in breast tissue if the most
active form of vitamin D has been present and that is only the case if
vitamin D's less-active form, calcidiol, has been present. In other
words, if you test vitamin D-deficient breast cancer patients for
vitamin D receptors, they will not have many; if you treat their
deficiency, they will probably develop those receptors.
Not only does calcitriol (the form made in optimal quantities by your
body when your vitamin D blood levels are ideal) inhibit breast cancer
cells from growing, it makes those cells grow and die more like
natural cells. Furthermore, vitamin D inhibits the formation of
excessive blood vessel growth around the cancerous tumor, a process
called anti-angiogenesis.
.....snip.......women in the sunniest regions of the United States
were about half as likely to die from breast cancer as were women who
lived in less sunny regions.....snip.....women who lived in the
sunniest regions were three times less likely to develop breast cancer
than were the women who lived in regions without as much sun.
......snip.....women with the highest levels of calcitriol in their
blood had the best prognosis. Those women with the lowest levels had a
more rapidly fatal course. They also found that women with breast
cancer had low levels of calcidiol in their blood with average levels
of about 16 ng/mL. Women who live in sunny climates, where breast
cancer is more rare, frequently have blood levels 3 times higher.
......snip......optimal doses of cholecalciferol would raise tissue
levels of cancer fighting calcitriol quite high, would not cause
hypercalcemia, and should work well against breast cancer. Remember,
cholecalciferol occurs naturally, cannot be patented, and is dirt
cheap. Therefore, the idea that it could help breast cancer offered no
financial incentives to drug companies or researchers hoping to
discover a drug they could patent. Also, few of the scientists working
to cure cancer had any but the most rudimentary understanding of basic
vitamin D physiology, pharmacology, or toxicology.
.....snip.....women with the highest vitamin D intake had only one
fourth as may abnormal densities on their mammogram as did women with
the lowest intake.>>»
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