Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 1:49pm

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So what did you tell your kids about extended nursing? Were they encouraged to be polite and not to make fun of or otherwise ridicule their peers who were still nursing?

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 1:51pm

***So what did you tell your kids about extended nursing? Were they encouraged to be polite and not to make fun of or otherwise ridicule their peers who were still nursing***


They've never seen it


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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 1:52pm

***You have "hundreds" of women in your salon every month, attempting to nurse older children while they get their hair done? Is your hair salon located in an alternate universe?***


Can you please ask me in not such a silly way?

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 1:53pm

<<<***So what did you tell your kids about extended nursing? Were they encouraged to be polite and not to make fun of or otherwise ridicule their peers who were still nursing***

They've never seen it>>>

You haven't answered either of my above questions. I'll wait.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 1:54pm

Wow you have a group of friends who EN? And the other mom's in the group allow their kids to ridicule the kids that EN & the moms who EN allow their kids to be ridiculed? And the EN moms keep coming back to the play group & expose their kids to systematic & systemic bullying...wow, just wow. Are these kids also allowed to make fun of a child of color or one with a hearing aid, a wheel chair, curly hair & freckles?

The FIRST time any child ridiculed my child at a play group for any reason & the bully's mom did not stop it would be the last time I went to that play group.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 1:56pm

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Why? It's a "silly" scenario. You claim that "hundreds" of women every month come to your salon for haircuts, and they're all trying to nurse older kids during the cut, thereby preventing you and your fellow stylists from doing their jobs. I'd like to know which planet you live on where "hundreds" of women come into the same salon every month and they are all attempting to nurse older kids. Given the actual statistics on extended nursing, your hair salon is either some kind of EN'er mecca, or...you're exaggerating a wee bit. ;O)

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 2:03pm
<<***No. Are you? I'm saying that other children will consider *anything* to be something to pick on if they've been given the idea that it's worthy of it.***

Exaca-tickally!>>


So then you agree that it's the ADULT who has a problem with it, and is teaching their child that it's worthy of ridicule. That sounds like an excellent teaching moment to me (about tolerance, that is).


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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:07pm

***They've never seen it>>>


You haven't answered either of my above questions. I'll wait.***


They've never seen it I said. I've never had to tell them anything.


<<<***So what did you tell your kids about extended nursing? Were they encouraged to be polite and not to make fun of or otherwise ridicule their peers who were still nursing***


does that answer for you? I've never HAD to.


Now if you wanna ask what I'd say NOW if they were out and saw kids nursing.......my 20 year old is old enuf to form her own opinion and the 11 and 13 I would ask them what *they* thought about it.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:10pm

>>They do need the idea planted in their head, otherwise why would it be worthy of ridicule? Not that their parents actually come right out and state their opinion (and kids take their parents' opinion as fact, don't they!). Sometimes all they need to see is the look of disgust on an adult's face. Kids are very good at reading between the lines. They are very perceptive. If Mom thinks it's gross, it must be.>>

I read the whole thread and I just want to say that I have a very observant, very curious and very outgoing almost 4 year old. Nothing escapes this one, from a feather on the ground to different kinds of people, she wants to know the whys etc. Never once has she made fun of someone else though mostly because I do not. At 4, at least with her, she does not know or get ridicule. She is simply curious and I try to keep all my personal issues to myself (like the fear of bugs or fear of heights). Now I have yet to see a breastfed child over one but she has seen breastfed kids at the Early Years Centre. So far she just steps around the mother, but she knows about breastfeeding. She was not breastfed and has not asked yet how she was fed. So far it is a non-issue for her but if she asks, I just say the baby is being fed.

I do believe teasing is taught by either adults or peers. If I catch Kylie ever bullying others, she is pulled aside. So far, unfortunately it is physical so far. She gets angry and bites. I have talked to her on numerous occasions on why this is wrong.

I cannot see how 4 year olds are making fun of anyone. Asking questions, sure, but I am around a lot of 0-6 year olds at the Early Years Centre and there has yet to be an issue of someone making fun of others. I hate to say it but I think this is more school year children who pick it up in the playground, but by then, I think most children are weaned.

Man, I am not looking forward to Kylie learning to tease because right now, her mind is pretty open to everyone (which I encourage).




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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:11pm

***Wow you have a group of friends who EN? And the other mom's in the group allow their kids to ridicule the kids that EN & the moms who EN allow their kids to be ridiculed? And the EN moms keep coming back to the play group & expose their kids to systematic & systemic bullying...wow, just wow. Are these kids also allowed to make fun of a child of color or one with a hearing aid, a wheel chair, curly hair & freckles? ***


We had this whole discussion in another thread. There WAS no play group for the ones who were nursing! they were too busy nursing. The other kids did not ridicule, they kept asking why little suzie won't come and play and that was bad enuf. You said ridicule, not I. And this mom does not get asked out much anymore as she is too busy nursing and too whiny that everyones house is too hot, too cold too everything and the kid is whiny too.


We were not discussing wheelchairs etc.

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