Do FFers know this risk?

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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:19pm

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But...but...but I thought you said you had lots of friends who were EN'ers. Does that mean none of those women have ever nursed their kids in front of your children?

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So in other words, you wouldn't say some of the stuff you've said about it here, because that might color THEIR opinions and impressions about EN. Hmmm...

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:20pm
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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:23pm

***I do believe teasing is taught by either adults or peers. If I catch Kylie ever bullying others, she is pulled aside. So far, unfortunately it is physical so far. She gets angry and bites. I have talked to her on numerous occasions on why this is wrong***


who taught her this?

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:25pm

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It sounds to me like this mother's issues go well beyond the fact that she is still nursing. I find it hard to imagine that her being "too busy nursing" is the main problem.

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No, but we were discussing reasons why kids might be curious about or interested in differences between themselves and other people. Until someone plants the seed in their minds that EN is "wrong", "gross", or worthy of butt-whoopings, kids won't have those notions about it, just like they won't have negative ideas about a person in a wheelchair, or a person with a different skin color than their own, or a person who is fat or freckled or wearing eyeglasses. They will most likely be *curious* about that person, but that is hardly the same as holding scornful feelings for them.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:26pm

**But...but...but I thought you said you had lots of friends who were EN'ers. Does that mean none of those women have ever nursed their kids in front of your children?**


But, but, my kids are too old to nurse and do not come on my coffee dates with me anymore now.


**So in other words, you wouldn't say some of the stuff you've said about it here, because that might color THEIR opinions and impressions about EN. Hmmm...**


I'm really not sure what you are trying to say? Are you insinuating that I would want to color their opinions? hmmm

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:27pm

(wait! even the bfed ones have the flu? But I thought ... ... well you know!)


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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:35pm
I actually cannot be sure. I can speculate. I used to nibble her toes. Sometimes I unfortunately think you can teach your children things without meaning too. I have stopped because a) she is too big, b) they are stinky and c) because I thought if that is contributing to it, I do not want her to think it is right. But biting is an oral thing. It releases tension. Like any oral infatuation, children are all about putting things in their mouth. I guess Kylie figures why not other kids? OK, seriously though, she did not put things in her mouth after 2. Because she stopped, we bought her smaller toys thinking this had ended. Three came around and suddenly everything is back in her mouth, toys, books, finer nails etc. It is like she wants to chew on everything again. Nervous habit, upset about something? I do not know. She is having separation anxiety at the idea of having to go to school alone. Oh, she wants to go, but is upset I will not be there. Whatever the reason, she now bites when angry. Once a month I have to pull her aside and say, it is not right and some day someone is going to bite you. Do you want that? It has happened twice in the last two months, and for some reason only boys. But I think it is because they are rougher and so Kylie is trying to match them...oh, why children are children? I just think in terms of bullying verbally, that comes later when unfortunately they meet other kids who do it...wonder if siblings teach each other...my sister and I made fun of each other...and I wonder if we taught some single child our wonderful behaviour...anyone got a study on that? ;)




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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:35pm

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I think it's really odd how you've accused us of trying to "get" you, and now of playing a "game", when all we're doing is reading the words YOU write, and debating them. No reason at all to "get" you, or to play "games", and I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of your fellow debaters. You should probably stop trying to see so many ulterior motives in our debates with you. I assure you that I have no interest in such sport.

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If you meant to say something other than how it came across, I'll take this as your concession that what you wrote, which came across to me as there being occasion to see "hundreds" of women nursing in your salon on a monthly basis, was something other than what you meant to say.

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Okay.

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So it's a rare occurrence for the women to actually be sitting in the barber's chair, nursing their kids during the actual haircut. Glad we've cleared that up.

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So, again, not your everyday customer who comes in and insists on nursing her older child while she's getting her haircut. I wonder, do you have the same rules for women who might want/need to nurse their infants during a haircut, or is it only the women nursing older kids you tell this to?

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:37pm

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But what if they did?

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I'm saying that I HOPE you do not.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 3:42pm

***So, again, not your everyday customer who comes in and insists on nursing her older child while she's getting her haircut. I wonder, do you have the same rules for women who might want/need to nurse their infants during a haircut, or is it only the women nursing older kids you tell this to?***


Yes and yes.


***I think it's really odd how you've accused us of trying to "get" you, and now of playing a "game", when all we're doing is reading the words YOU write, and debating them. No reason at all to "get" you, or to play "games", and I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of your fellow debaters. You should probably stop trying to see so many ulterior motives in our debates with you. I assure you that I have no interest in such sport.***


I think it is beyond debate to act rude and say my salon must be in an alternate universe just because YOU didn't understand what hundreds of customers thru my salon monthly, means. I don't see that as ulterior, just abit rude and I called you on it is all. I'm not the only one to ever do so here.


you made it go longer than needed by your own misreading.

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