Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Registered: 02-17-2009
Fri, 07-24-2009 - 9:37pm

"And FTR (not directed at you, just a general comment on the entire discussion), she has many times asked for "na-na's" at the salon, and my answer is and always will be as long as she's nursing, "You have and water, mommy is busy and you can have na-na's when we get home." Most people still seem to think she's asking for a banana and I really couldn't care less about the ones who have it figured out. : ) It's not about en'ing, it's about boundaries. I can easily imagine a non-nursing toddler wanting to sit on mom's lap or otherwise get her hands-on attention, and it should be the same answer. Later, mommy is busy now. "

I completely agree and I don't hesitate to think that most moms nursing toddlers would be the same way. I can completely understand if an infant *needs* it, if that makes sense, but then again I could not imagine taking MY infant to a salon to have a service performed--but that might just be me.

I can think of situations where mom doesn't have a whole lot of options and NEEDS her haircut--like say military wives whose husbands are deployed or other women whose husbands travel a lot and babysitting isn't an option or family isn't available. It definitely happens. But there are those select few who think they can do whatever they want, wherever and whenever and everyone else just has to deal. Ugh, those people used to really tick me off! :)

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 9:39pm
See, you got me thinking, and yes, even non-nursing children will want to get onto Mummy's lap. I have the most wonderful salon here where they keep Kylie occupied while I get my hair done. They read to her and let her colour. But I often still have to say Mummy is busy, we will play later. I always leave a nice tip too because they have been so kind!




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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 9:44pm

«We had this whole discussion in another thread. There WAS no play group for the ones who were nursing! they were too busy nursing. The other kids did not ridicule, they kept asking why little suzie won't come and play and that was bad enuf. You said ridicule, not I. And this mom does not get asked out much anymore as she is too busy nursing and too whiny that everyones house is too hot, too cold too everything and the kid is whiny too.»

OK the first sentence you say "the ones who were nursing". Further down near the bottom you say "this mom" and "the kid is whiny too". Is it one kid and one mom? One mom with several kids? Or a bunch of moms with several kids?

I ask because as it stands, either you are telling several stories and getting them mixed up, or you are not being very clear in the one story you are telling, which means we can't fully get the gist of what actually was going on. That is why you get questions about which planet it was on. I have yet to see, outside of a LLL reunion or some such, scads and scads of ENers in playgroups. Let alone hair salons. And if your children never saw this happening does that mean they were not there? If so, why were you there without kids, at a playgroup??

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 9:48pm


I am so far behind that I'm sure this has been addressed, but I'll forget to respond if it hasn't been by the time I get to the end...


I will agree with the first part IF you're talking about an older child.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 9:51pm

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/iv-psbfvbottle/?msg=6953.400

«***I've only seen you comment on ONE situation. Is that correct? ***

No, it is not correct. Most of my friends are en-ers and not to mention the hundreds of clients that go thru my salon monthly»

You say here that most of your friends EN. And then you continue your sentence to say "not to mention the hundreds of clients that go thru my salon monthly". *In the context* of this sentence, following closely on the heels of "most of my friends are en-ers", it sounds exactly like you are saying that hundreds of people nurse in your salon every month.

It would be a lot easier to address the situation if you wrote it out exactly like it was the first time. If the hundreds of women going through your salon are *not* ENing but you do see it a fair amount, how about saying something like "not to mention that a fair number of the hundreds of clients that go thru my salon monthly also EN" or something that is clearer like that, so we don't get mixed up and go on this neverending merry-go-round of who said what.

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 9:55pm

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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 10:12pm


One of my friends has a DS who is just over 4 and they have this cute code.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 07-24-2009 - 10:15pm
TBH it's probably no worse under the smock than under many nursing covers that people think moms should supposedly use to "be discrete"...
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 07-24-2009 - 10:21pm
In which case, is a baby/child not safer tucked away under the smock (assuming they aren't wriggling but are lying still while nursing...admittedly not always an easy feat but sometimes works!) rather than running around the salon?
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Fri, 07-24-2009 - 10:26pm

This is why I love this board. I get new ideas. Thanks, I just think I might try that, three squeezes for I love you and four for I love you back...;)!

Fio, be nice, some of us think nursing covers are important for those ultra shy. I still think I would use one even if it screams nursing because I cannot get past my infant popping off and someone seeing anything...but then again, talk about pulling shirts...those poor bystanders who got an eye full of my belly because my daughter suddenly wanted to poke my belly button in public!




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