Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 12:54am
How do you know you were RAV'd? Are you sure the mods weren't just watching your posts closely and pulled one without anyone else having clicked the RAV button?
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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 12:54am
It's not about en'ing, it's about boundaries. I can easily imagine a non-nursing toddler wanting to sit on mom's lap or otherwise get her hands-on attention, and it should be the same answer. Later, mommy is busy now.



As the mom of non-nursing toddlers I wholeheartedly agree. Though usually they wouldn't even be with me when I go to get a haircut unless I have someone to sit with them while I'm in the chair.

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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 12:58am
I am willing to admit that an EN'd child *could* have a negative outcome somehow. However, that is a VERY big "could". I would think *far far* more kids who are never nursed or who are prematurely weaned have negative outcomes.
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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:09am

::wipes dust off butt from having fallen off chair::

Thanks for the links, that was quite surprising! ;-)

As for allergens it is *possible* to get a bad reaction from proteins passing through BM. We have actually had a poster who weaned her child to an extremely hypoallergenic formula b/c she couldn't follow the extensive elimination diet needed and he was having negative health issues due to severe allergies. *However* his life (AFAIK) was not at risk per se from some proteins and cerainly it was not as dangerous as feeding those same allergens (such as cow milk/soy protein) via formula.

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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:16am

***And if your children never saw this happening does that mean they were not there? If so, why were you there without kids, at a playgroup***


You should be a lawyer......:)


As I stated, my kids are adult and teens. They do not accompany to coffee visits.











«We had this whole discussion in another thread. There WAS no play group for the ones who were nursing! they were too busy nursing. The other kids did not ridicule, they kept asking why little suzie won't come and play and that was bad enuf. You said ridicule, not I. And this mom does not get asked out much anymore as she is too busy nursing and too whiny that everyones house is too hot, too cold too everything and the kid is whiny too.»


OK the first sentence you say "the ones who were nursing". Further down near the bottom you say "this mom" and "the kid is whiny too". Is it one kid and one mom? One mom with several kids? Or a bunch of moms with several kids? ****


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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:19am

I don't think the smock is the same. The baby wouldn't even be able to see mom at all, and would they be expected to stay under their the whole time? I think that'd be a lot to ask of everyone involved.

The only time I've had a child on my lap in a salon chair is when the child is getting the cut. It's tough enough to manage just that.

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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:21am
****No, it is not correct. Most of my friends are en-ers and not to mention the hundreds of clients that go thru my salon monthly»

You say here that most of your friends EN. And then you continue your sentence to say "not to mention the hundreds of clients that go thru my salon monthly". *In the context* of this sentence, following closely on the heels of "most of my friends are en-ers", it sounds exactly like you are saying that hundreds of people nurse in your salon every month.


It would be a lot easier to address the situation if you wrote it out exactly like it was the first time. If the hundreds of women going through your salon are *not* ENing but you do see it a fair amount, how about saying something like "not to mention that a fair number of the hundreds of clients that go thru my salon monthly also EN" or something that is clearer like that, so we don't get mixed up and go on this neverending merry-go-round of who said what.***


Yes, ok you didn't understand, I've already cleared this up tho. You are famous for

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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:23am

*I'm jealous.**


She was a very easy baby! I wasn't going to jinx it by having another, lol .JK!

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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:26am
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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 1:28am
And if it doesn't work because your child can't be scheduled, then mom can skip the haircut. I've gone 6 months between hair cuts because being mommy comes first and I sometimes come last (at least for hair).

"The last of human freedoms - the ability to chose one's attitude in a given set of circumstances. " - Viktor Frankl.



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