Do FFers know this risk?

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Registered: 01-16-2009
Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


According to the FDA, "a



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Registered: 01-08-2008
Sat, 07-25-2009 - 9:54pm

That doesn't work for anyone else and I have yet to see a "hateful" or "inflammatory" post from a formula feeder>>>>>>>>>>>>


On this board or I village in general?

                      

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 07-25-2009 - 10:22pm

Stick around. You've only been here less than a week right?

I've been here 7 years. There have been many.

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Sat, 07-25-2009 - 10:34pm
I think you have a point about Columbine. I grew up there though I moved away years before it happened, I used to work with one of the mothers who's daughter was killed and one of our friends was a policeman who responded. I remember talking to my mom and she didn't initially realize just how much coverage it got outside of Denver. I probably don't have the sort of insight you have because my experience with bullying was not as severe and detrimental. I understand what you are saying though, and I know that Columbine had a profound and wide reaching impact on so many people. If anything good came out of it, it was raising awareness many notches higher than it ever was before.



ETA: to my knowledge the children they shot were not bullies and there were some additional mental health issues probably involved, but even so the whole tragedy did raise awareness in schools in important ways.

"The last of human freedoms - the ability to chose one's attitude in a given set of circumstances. " - Viktor Frankl.



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Registered: 07-11-2006
Sat, 07-25-2009 - 11:22pm

>>I could say that if anything good came out of the Columbine massacre, it's that people have started taking bullying issues more seriously.<<

Oddly enough, some of the newer articles say that the shooters were not bullied.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm

I would like to read Wally Lamb's book.

The books I'd like to read about kids and bullying are: Bullies, the Bullied, and the Bystanders by Barbara Coloroso and Queen Bees and Wannabees by ?

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Sat, 07-25-2009 - 11:52pm
OMG, Nisu. That Columbine article was so eye-opening for me. I hadn't been aware of any of those details before now.
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Registered: 04-07-2009
Sun, 07-26-2009 - 12:20am

**The sad part was that this was awhile ago, back in the days when people thought that bullying was a part of life for most kids and that adults couldn't do anything about it, the kids had to work it out themselves, etc.**

Not in my case. The bully I had to deal with had to change to the high school and my older sibling gave the bully a taste of their own medicine. I rather enjoyed it lol.

**I was 20 when that happened and I remember thinking that I totally understood where those two kids were coming from**

I don't care who bullies who. I don't think anyone in their right mind could be pushed to that extent from being called names. The same goes for violent songs and video games. Not to mention that, but what was reported back when the Columbine ordeal happened wasn't what really happened. They never made a girl pray and then shoot her in the head. The media was just playing it up. But that's not to say it wasn't a horrible situation. People did die and that should never have happened, but to say it was because of the bullies is just an excuse. At least one of them was on anti-depressants which was more likely the cause of the homicidal tendencies. The bullies just became a target because they were bullies. But that is getting off topic.

eta: Here's a link because the story a PP posted said they weren't on anti-depressants and they were. Luvox was found in Harris' system when he died.

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Columbine/Columbine-Bollyn.html




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Registered: 04-07-2009
Sun, 07-26-2009 - 12:26am
Just because a comment is against breastfeeding does not make it "hateful" or "inflammatory". If that was the case then almost every post from a breastfeeder would be considered "hateful" or "inflammatory" because it is against formula feeding. I mean, why does it matter if someone is against breastfeeding? Who is it hurting? Who is it insulting? No one. I think the formula feeders shouldn't be so harshly judged. If you are going to make a claim, you need to be ready to back it up because I haven't seen one post like you described so, yes, you would have to actually post a link.

**In summary, derogatory comments and misperceptions about breastfeeders are rampant. I could provide links for you, but it'd be an exercise in futility, not to mention potentially a TOS violation.**

Not to mention there probably aren't any examples.




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Registered: 04-07-2009
Sun, 07-26-2009 - 12:27am
This board. And how could you possibly know how long I've been a lurker?




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Registered: 07-11-2006
Sun, 07-26-2009 - 7:56am

>>If that was the case then almost every post from a breastfeeder would be considered "hateful" or "inflammatory" because it is against formula feeding.<<

Now see this is one of the cases I described above where I would ask for evidence that ANYONE is "against formula feeding".

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Sun, 07-26-2009 - 7:58am

>>Not to mention there probably aren't any examples.<<

Ah, the ole seeing what you wanna see defense. >>shrug<<

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