Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 8:29pm
I wonder how long the appointment are? My hair appointments are quite quick, so even with an infant I could probably wait to nurse.



In the past my hair appts are usually 15 minutes for just a trim. I found a great salon that specializes in curly hair and cuts each curl individually - which was amazing and made *such* a difference. Probably the first cut in my life that made me like my hair more. Anywho it took an hour - no way would any of my kids older or younger have any interest in hanging out there while I got that kind of service. But 15 minutes we can handle, and pretty much anything except an emergency can wait 15 minutes, at least IME.

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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 8:39pm
Also I always turn my cell phone off when I am getting a hair cut. Isn't that kind of expected?

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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 8:48pm
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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 9:55pm
I just ignore the phone lol. Of course I ignore it always anyway.




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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 10:22pm

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I'd really like to know where this is, honestly. It must not be in the big cities, anyway. SoCal (where I live) is far too commercial to ever be considered "hippie," and anyway, in San Diego (specifically the city where I live), there's a strong conservative vote. Very strong.

But (and I could be wrong about this), even the much-more-socially liberal (even "hippie") big cities in Northern California don't necessarily seem to be very family-friendly.

IDK, "hippie" to me connotes anti-consumerism, and I cannot think of any place within 75 miles of the California coast that could truly fit that description in any meaningful proportion.

And on top of all that, I know very few people here outside of my bf support who EN. Very few as in none.




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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 10:44pm
I must have missed why BSM was referred to as living in California - doesn't see live in Canada? I remember something about socialized medicine and I thought that was her. IDK, is this thread in the running for either the most number or wildest tangents?

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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 10:51pm
I am from canada harmony, that's why I was really confused at the notion when I found out it was directed
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Or maybe years and years and years of being beaten down by so many other kids, while adults stand idly by, could make you not be in the "right mind" anymore.

I'm not sure precisely what made them do it, especially in light of new evidence. But I can remember, myself, that I often thought of violent ends to make the torment stop (either hurting the other kids to make them afraid of me or killing myself so I didn't have to deal with it anymore). Of course that's a sign of mental illness, but it didn't just come from out of the blue.

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I don't know what your bullying experience was like, but mine was far, far more serious than this. It was systematic, pervasive, and followed me wherever I went, in any capacity I interacted with these kids. I got it before school, during school, after school, on the school bus, at church, at the movies, at the mall, at the library, at Girl Scouts, anywhere my parents weren't immediately present. It was organized so that everywhere I looked in the classroom except at the teacher (yes, even when I kept my eyes on the floor), they had it arranged to torment me. One time on a Girl Scout rafting outing, one of the girls who picked on me hit me in the face with an oar. They didn't usually get physical with me, as I wasn't athletic by any means, but yeah, they'd beat me up if they thought it would be fun.

None of the kids were punished or even addressed about the issue. Not a single one. It lasted for a little over three years.




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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 10:57pm

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That's a cute story, but I don't know that this is always the case. I know that a few people here have addressed the "rise above it" approach, but sometimes it just doesn't work. Over a long period and with enough backup, bullies can break down even the strongest defenses.

I would agree that this would be the best first approach to try (in the hopes that the bully would lose interest), but if it didn't work, other means would need to be applied. Unfortunately, it was the only approach my parents were willing to try, and even though it pained them to see me suffering so much, they always told me that the reason why it upset me is because I let it upset me and I just had to keep ignoring them. Keep ignoring all ~100 of them. Every hour of every day for over three years.




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Sun, 07-26-2009 - 10:58pm
Reading that makes *me* want to beat them up, and I am *not* a violent person.



ETA: Ok, the moment passed and I don't want to hit them anymore. But seriously Holly that is so upsetting and it has nothing to do with me. I am not a fan of homeschooling but if my kids went through that I'd figure something out.

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