Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


According to the FDA, "a



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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:07pm

****But the actual scientific evidence doesn't sway you. You just "believe that believe it". Interesting.****


Is scientific evidence *supposed* to sway me on everything in life? Nah. I'm not the type of woman who ever needed to define her femininity by having babies and breastfeeding them till they wean at whatever age. I had one, good enough for me, there's more to me than wanting to be an en-er, I do Feel I can own my body and like to have it back, so? I also was never the type of woman to define her worth by her husbands net worth either. I can not have the type of carreer I have and be tied down by nurslings,

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:10pm
I should read ahead!

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:10pm
:P Interesting. If you both feel that way, then why comment in the first place? It seems to me that would, in fact, begin the diction debate. Perhaps if you had ignored it there would be no "egocentric tangent."



I'd like to think that is the case. I often do ignore those type of comments, sometimes I just can't. Call me human. I thought you might be open to hearing how it sounded to someone else, since my interest was having your point heard and I clearly thought you had a lot of good knowledge that should be heard.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:11pm

***With all due respect, why are you here? You've reiterated over and over again that you don't approve of the way the debate progresses here, and you don't seem to be willing or interested in debating the actual subject matter beyond dropping opinions you can't support with anything other than emotions. So, really, why waste your time if you find this such a negative place to be?***


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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:15pm

**** I have no idea whether she has been "provided" with it. I figured she had taken some time to learn about it on her own before forming such a strong opinion about it, especially given the exposure she claims to have IRL.****


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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:16pm

Hi,


This is your final warning that, if personal attacks continue this thread will be closed to any further posting and may result in warnings or revocation of member privileges.


Personal attacks are not necessary in order to debate a subject.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:17pm

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So is this what you think we're doing? I don't "define my femininity by having babies" or by breastfeeding them. And I am speaking for all of my fellow EN'ers when I say that I have much more to "me" than my mothering experiences. I also "own my body".

Why do you feel the need to make such assumptions about other women, whom you don't even know in person? You have no clue what we do and who we are when we aren't here on an infant feeding debate board. You have no idea what kinds of experiences we have had that have nothing at all to do with infant feeding, yet can still be considered part of what defines us as women.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:19pm

>>I was welcomed here. Is this where you want me to leave because I'm NOT on your side of the issues? I don't find everyone here negative at all! Do you only want people here that agree with EVERYTHING you say? I don't care what science says, it's MY body.>>

For myself, I understand that point of view, it is the fact that you also might feel that other people should not be engaging in that type of behaviour in public. My mother is the same way and after a long debate, still did not understand why EN is needed. I just think that it is alright to still believe that EN is not necessary for older children, but maybe said in a kinder fashion then ICK...;)

We really are going on tangents based on a few words and not the content of the entire post. I better be careful because I am terrible at expressing myself and do throw in unnecessary words on occasion, and my spelling is horrible...




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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:20pm

***If it's a "turn off" for you, I have to wonder what your expectation is?

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:23pm

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Nope. And please stop insinuating that people don't want to be disagreed with. I love to debate THE TOPIC, otherwise I wouldn't still be here after several years. I do not, however, like to read post after post telling us that we shouldn't be debating, or that we play games, or set double standards, or anything of the like. If you're here to debate...JUST DEBATE. Stop telling us what to do with regard to how we debate and stop accusing us of trying to "get" you, play "bait and switch" with you, and everything else you've said in this thread alone.

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Again, no. I do not. But that's actually the sense I get from you, and some other posters too. It seems that when YOU are disagreed with, or questioned, you take it as a personal attack, which it most emphatically is not meant to be. I prefer it when people do NOT agree with "everything" I say, because then we can actually debate the subject matter.

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Which is fine and dandy when we're only discussing YOUR body. But by coming in and telling us that what WE are doing with OUR bodies (nursing past infancy) is "ick", you've crossed the line from your freedoms into ours.

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