Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:25pm

***All right.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:26pm

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LOL. I'm not taking any of this "personally". I couldn't care less what you think about how I am parenting my children. It simply matters not a whit to me if you approve of EN or not, except in the context of the debate, where you're declaring something "ick" without really knowing much about it at all.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:28pm

***Oh, so it's OUR fault that you wrote something unclearly. Whatever. You're giving us way too much credit. Just say what you mean and mean what you say, and things will be a whole lot easier.***


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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:36pm

***Why do you feel the need to make such assumptions about other women, whom you don't even know in person? You have no clue what we do and who we are when we aren't here on an infant feeding debate board. You have no idea what kinds of experiences we have had that have nothing at all to do with infant feeding, yet can still be considered part of what defines us as women.***


Sigh, thistle, i'm speaking for me. I'm saying what *I* mean and meaning what *I* say and you are putting words into my mouth here.


I did not say

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:40pm

<<<"I'm not the type of woman who defines her femininity by having babies and nursing 'like YOU are' " Those words were not uttered. Why are you taking this so personal?>>>

Because you have already said something to that effect to me earlier in the thread. Because it is clear from the way you have discussed EN that you don't understand it, and this is merely an extension of that.

I'm done going around in circles with you. You're not interested in debating the topic and your posts are becoming more and more defensive as we go along. If you want to talk about INFANT FEEDING in any capacity, I'll be back to join you. Until then, I'm finished with this merry-go-round. If you're here to just argue pointlessly, maybe somebody else is more interested in sparring than I.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:42pm

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:42pm
All right. So in the future you'd like me to say, "Oh dear, Lichqueen. My, please excuse me, but I do believe you might be expressing ideas which could be miscontrued as perhaps being only slightly egocentric. My apologies again, dearheart."



You can obviously say whatever you please. Maybe you have a different definition of derogatory remark, but you say you don't give any warnings and your students are in trouble if they say something derogatory to another student, so now I'm kind of wondering what you consider derogatory. I'm also not sure if your statement above means you *really* want my suggestion or not, but here it is so that there is no confusion what I meant:



First of all -- it is rather egocentric of you to think that just because your bully experience did not induce these sorts of feelings in YOU, that being bullied does not result in thoughts of violence and/or harm.



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First of all - it is incorrect to think that just because your bully experience did not induce these sorts of feelings in YOU, that being bullied does not result in thoughts of violence and/or harm.






If your students were discussing ideas and you were worried about derogatory remarks, which would you prefer to hear them say?

"The last of human freedoms - the ability to chose one's attitude in a given set of circumstances. " - Viktor Frankl.



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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:43pm
I wonder about that too. My mom sees some of them sometimes and she says they're all really nice now.




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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:50pm

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Edited 7/27/2009 1:54 pm ET by thistlemchays
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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:52pm

***For myself, I understand that point of view, it is the fact that you also might feel that other people should not be engaging in that type of behaviour in public. My mother is the same way and after a long debate, still did not understand why EN is needed. I just think that it is alright to still believe that EN is not necessary for older children, but maybe said in a kinder fashion then ICK...;)***


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