Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:54pm
I'm not the type of woman who ever needed to define her femininity by having babies and breastfeeding them till they wean at whatever age. I had one, good enough for me, there's more to me than wanting to be an en-er, I do Feel I can own my body and like to have it back, so?



So is this what you think we're doing? I don't "define my femininity by having babies" or by breastfeeding them. And I am speaking for all of my fellow EN'ers when I say that I have much more to "me" than my mothering experiences. I also "own my body".



I agree with both of you. BSM can define herself and her life any which way she wants. If that means not EN and only having one child that's fine. It doesn't mean she thinks I'm doing something bad by defining myself a different way - does it BSM? Jump in if it does because I'll refute that. I *DO* define myself and my femininity in part by being a mom and being a bf'er and I think that's just fine too. That is one reason I had a hard time switching to ff'ing, it didn't fit with my self concept, I was an all natural bf'ing mom and I didn't want to be something else. I have plenty of *other* ways I define myself too but that one was and is important to me. It wasn't for BSM and it can mean something different to you, but it doesn't mean *any* of us are wrong.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:03pm

****You'll have to be more specific. Sorry to ask for an example, but I need to know where I was treating you differently when you were joking. I can usually tell when people are not being serious, but sometimes --especially when I don't know someone or their posting style yet-- I miss a wink or something.***


Sorry to say I am not going to go thru hundreds of threads again and when I did give examples, I got called defensive so it is just too exhausting. I will just add winkys and smileys to everything so it can not be misconstrued as mean or something too then.


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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:10pm

Harmony, there is nothing derogatory about the word "egocentric>>>>>>>>>>


I agree.

                      

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:11pm

>>Because you have already said something to that effect to me earlier in the thread. Because it is clear from the way you have discussed EN that you don't understand it, and this is merely an extension of that.>>

It was not clear to me that when the word ick was used in terms of EN that it was the ick factor for herself that BSM (busy-stepmom) was talking about. I think that clears it up for me.

Even if we do not all understand EN, does not mean I do not or someone else cannot have an opinion on it. My mother gets it but does not. She once said to me that she saw a woman she knew who was breastfed till five, and hey, looked alright like an ENer would look any different. I just shrugged and laughed and said maybe she is also healthier too, you never know.

I do think this can be a very sensitive topic to some. For me, I cannot discuss the consumption of alcohol and breastfeeding at all clearly. I am avoiding any such thread. I do not think it would be safe for me to do...and yes, I have my own ick factor. ;)




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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:15pm

Harmony, there is nothing derogatory about the word "egocentric>>>>>>>>>>
I agree. When I read Harmony's post I thought "hmm, do I have the definition wrong?" I didn't see it as derogatory at all.>>

Derogatory is not the word because it is not a "bad" word. It is not like swearing although it is like an educated man's way of hitting someone were it could hurt. I am not saying that everyone would take it as a slight, but I did think, whoa...I often skip the rest of the paragraph after that because it does make me nervous about what may be coming next. But then again, I am a little more sensitive then others, have a good vocabulary, and can see where someone might say, whoa, really...




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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:19pm

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I did not. I said I use it "plenty". And I do, and you have no idea when.

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YOU are responsible for the content of your posts, nobody else. If YOU post something that another person deems RAV'able, it is YOUR fault for doing so. You may want to familiarize yourselves with the iVillage TOS to see what exactly is allowed to be posted and what is not. If somebody else (me or anybody, including lurkers) sees objectionable content in your posts, it is our right and prerogative to report it. Nobody here wants to see language that is offensive or hurtful, and instead of just complaining about it non-stop, the mature thing to do is to RAV it and let the mods deal with it. If you are concerned about being RAV'd for something you have written, it should be your cue to stop writing things that could be seen as offensive or otherwise inappropriate for this forum.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:20pm

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Of course. I know this and I think most others around here do as well.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:21pm

I'm not the type of woman who ever needed to define her femininity by having babies and breastfeeding them till they wean at whatever age. >>>>>>>>>>>


So WHO exactly IS that type of woman?

                      

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:27pm
>>First of all -- it is rather egocentric of you to think that just because your bully experience did not induce these sorts of feelings in YOU, that being bullied does not result in thoughts of violence and/or harm.


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First of all - it is incorrect to think that just because your bully experience did not induce these sorts of feelings in YOU, that being bullied does not result in thoughts of violence and/or harm.





If your students were discussing ideas and you were worried about derogatory remarks, which would you prefer to hear them say?<<


LOL honestly -- my remark.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 2:39pm

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