Do FFers know this risk?

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Do FFers know this risk?
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Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:15pm

Do most FFing parents know powdered infant formulas are not commercially sterile products? How much of a risk is a E. sakazakii infection? Is it only a risk to premature and low-weight babies? According to the WHO article below, "infants under 2 months of age are at greatest risk."


According to the FDA, "a



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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:04pm

"And by saying they aren't trying to impress anyone or put anyone out are you saying that EVERY mother than ENs is not trying to impress anyone or put anyone out because that's a sweeping generalization and sadly, there is probably at least one mom out there does it for show."


LOL


I don't speak for every nurser or ENer.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:11pm
YK what, there are those of us who are getting hands slapped for saying words such as "egotistical" and "egocentric". The posts in question may not even have been RAV'd but if the mods determined they had to go and the person had to have their hand slapped, then there is not much anyone can do about it. However, it seems a lot less insulting to say someone is egocentric than to name people a derogatory term, even in another language.
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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:16pm

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egocentrism


ego·cen·tric 
          Listen to the pronunciation of egocentric

Pronunciation:

\ˌē-gō-ˈsen-trik also ˌe-\

Function:

adjective

Date:

1894

1: concerned with the individual rather than society

2: taking the ego as the starting point in philosophy

3 a: limited in outlook or concern to one's own activities or needs

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:16pm
I don't agree with this. Teachers do more than just teach academics and I'm sure do get educated somewhat in child pysch issues. They wear more than one hat and I don't think they need to be an expert to speak on it. A good teacher would certainly refer to a psychologist if needed.



I think this is another case of everyone is right. Mrsmichael and Holly (and others) are right that intense bullying can cause one to have violent thoughts and to act them out on themselves or others.... however I'd say those who do act them out, and especially those who act them out to extremes, could very well be dealing with some other underlying issues and it might be a result of more than just the bullying (obviously it would be case by case, how intense the bullying was and what the other issues are)... and LC is right that this is more a psychological question than an education question, those disciplines are very different, though we are probably all qualified to at least have an opinion on it.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:18pm
There are people who are scandinavian, who are about as pale as they can be, who are living in Georgia and other places in the south, who consume dairy, who get "moderate" amounts of noon-day sun, who are deficient in D. If *they* are deficient in D, imagine how much *more* deficient a darker skinned person living further up north who doesn't get out much will be? It is virtually impossible to get enough D these days without burning and everyone avoids burning b/c of skin cancer/ageing worries.
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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:26pm

::ziiiiing::

That was the sound of my point flying RIGHT over your head.

It was an analogy. It was saying *someone* said something, then backed up and said it wasn't waht she said to begin with.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:31pm
Lve2read if you don't mind would you send me an e-mail at macbump @ gmail.com? If you don't want to I understand but I tried through your profile and it doesn't work so just thought I'd give you the option. :-)
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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:36pm
I believe Harmony means here on the boards and it as an almost rhetorical question because there has been no proof provided other than anecdotal evidence which, as many of the breastfeeding side have stated or implied, is not actual fact.



Close. I meant we can't expect her to be "swayed" by the scientific evidence of EN if we haven't made that debate argument yet (how would she be swayed by an argument we didn't even make). It's not her job to research and make the EN'ing argument for us, that's what the debate is for. But also that the science isn't as overwhelming as it is for nursing in the first year, the science is less likely to sway a person all by itself.



I loved EN, btw, and I do think it's pretty great for those who are open to it. You don't even have to decide ahead of time. Just commit to nursing a year and then remember you don't have to stop if it's going well :)

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:41pm

Geez, I'd put a lot more money on the breastfeeder getting RAV'ed for "egocentric" and the formula feeder getting a by.

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 9:42pm

>>and LC is right that this is more a psychological question than an education question, those disciplines are very different, though we are probably all qualified to at least have an opinion on it.<<


Any standard course of study for an education major includes several courses in child psychology.

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