Far Fetched?

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Far Fetched?
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Mon, 09-29-2003 - 7:34pm
Why is it so far fetched to believe that formula consumption might affect a human later in life and not immediately during infancy? This question is inspired by a comment made in the flame retardant thread and by the following study which I find very interesting:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=594&e=2&u=/nm/20030929/hl_nm/health_meat_dc

I found this quote to be especially interesting...

"However, we are now living longer and the question arises whether the gradual accumulation of Neu5Gc and the simultaneous presence of antibodies against could be involved in some diseases of later life," he said.

...Interesting because it is scientifically plausible that the effects of substances we ingest are not immediately noticed and are often times cumulative. Do we accept our great formula experiment because most formula babies are "healthy and thriving"? Why are we so confident that our babies will continue to be "healthy and thriving" young adults? Middle aged adults? Senior citizens?

Danielle

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In reply to: luv_my_boyz
Mon, 09-29-2003 - 8:53pm
Good question...I don't know the answer to that, but by the same token, babies fed on today's breastmilk---with all of today's chemical contaminants---are also just as "untested". Who really knows what the effect is? Nobody.
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 10:26am
You are correct, there are definitely unknowns. However, I do know several things about breastmilk.

1) It changes to meet my babies needs. I WANT to be exposed to any infections my baby is exposed to so that I can make custom germ-fighters. It stands to reason that if my milk protects my baby from infection, it is scientifically plausible to expect that my milk provides some protection against environmental contaminants.


2) Babies have survived and "thrived" on breastmilk during prior periods of high pollution- such as when big cities were MUCH dirtier than they are today. In fact babies survive and thrive on breastmilk under some pretty horrible conditions- including famine.

3) Breastmilk has nourished and sustained babies for the entire history of mankind. Every point in history has presented biological challenges to mankind and yet we have survived. Perhaps this period's "biological challenge" is a fight against pollution. We don't have any history to suggest that human milk is going to let us down now.

Here is some of what I know about formula:

1) It does not provide ANY protective benefits.

2) Cows milk proteins are problematic for immature digestive and immune systems.

3) It is lacking unnumerable properties of breastmilk.

4) Poorer health outcomes are linked to formula consumption, even when controlling for socioeconomic factors.

5) Formula was intended to be a substitute for breastmilk only under unusual circumstances. For that, we should be thankful. But it was not intended as an equal of two choices.

Breastmilk wins, hands down, even in our polluted world.

Danielle

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Registered: 03-25-2003
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 10:50am

Put the kiddo's in a bubble and make sure there is no contact with anyone or anything and pray that you don't find out 10 years from now that the bubble itself was found to be contaminated.


See, the problem with this type of post is that NONE of us can forsee the future.

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Registered: 09-24-2003
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 11:00am
Wow! Thank you Misty for saying EXACTLY what I feel but haven't been able to convey. ITA with your opinon.
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 11:36am

yes, but then you must continue feeding bm forever in order to have no "what-if's" in your childs life wrt consumption.


BM will not do your child any when they are 5 years old and are infected with virus type "a" (example) that was found to be in food "type b" that you thought was perfectly acceptable 3 years ago when you fed it to your child.


And yes, you are correct...babies have survived on bm during high polution or diseased periods.

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Registered: 03-31-2003
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 11:37am
I agree also. But, I also firmly believe that genetics and heredity play a role. As well as what kind of life a person leads-do they eat well, do they smoke, do they exercise, etc.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 1:07pm
""I also firmly believe that genetics and heredity play a role. As well as what kind of life a person leads-do they eat well, do they smoke, do they exercise, etc.""

i don't know what genes my child inherited, or what kind of life they may lead as adults. i can only hope that both are positives. mothers and fathers do NOT know these things when these choose their feeding method.

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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 1:50pm
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I believe you're missing the point completely. The opinon (which I share) is that genetics and life style play more of a role in overall health than BM vs. Formula. In other words, nutrition is not as crucial/instrumental/pivotal in overall health as some of you here believe it to be.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 2:06pm
I disagree. Nutrition is a big part of the picture as is genetics and life style. If you take two people with similiar genetics and lifestyles feed one junk food and one healthy food, the one that consumes the healthy food is more likely to be a healthier individual. A person with a family history of high cholesterol will most likely benefit from a diet that keeps that in mind. I beleive that nutrition is a part of the puzzle, a very important piece, which could make or break most people. otherwise why would health professionals keep telling people to eat a balanced diet, if it's really not as important as genetics or lifestyle,Jmo,Lisa
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Tue, 09-30-2003 - 2:33pm

Yes, but are we comparing formula to junk food and bm to the only

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