Formula risks...I believe

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Formula risks...I believe
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Wed, 10-24-2007 - 12:27pm

Formula risks...I believe



  • Formula has risks that are unacceptable if breastmilk is available
  • Formula has risks but it's OK to choose it if you understand the risks
  • Formula has risks but it's OK to choose it even if you DONT understand the risks
  • Formula has some risks but they are overblown
  • Formula has risks but so does breastmilk, and the risks are about the same
  • Formula doesn't have any risks
  • Other, please explain


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Registered: 07-08-2001
Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:26am
Oh, I wouldn't call a limerick poetry. I was just "using my wit," as commanded. ;-) I also think Colleen's limerick was better.
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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:26am

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PumpkinAngel

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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:29am
I dropped out of an Ivy league school....does that count?

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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:37am
And what about Kevin Mary, he's still nursing? :-)



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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:38am

"Actually, come to think of it, I do think it is a modern phenomenon. In past generations, men weren't expected to bond with their children to the extent they are now."


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Men may not have been expected to do

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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:40am

"An excellent job of what?

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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:42am

Hi pumpkinangel! Formula was 'invented' by Henri Nestle in the late 1800s to save the life of a premature infant who would have died because breastmilk was not available to him. Here's a link to his story with an excerpt (I could have just used the nestle website, but if sehorse thinks the AAP is biased, then a formula manufacturer's website is also):


http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/guide/lake_geneva/nestle.html


Henri Nestlé was born in Frankfurt in 1814, and moved to Vevey in his twenties, a merchant and small-scale inventor. He slowly gravitated towards foods and foodstuffs, experimenting with various recipes for baby-food to help mothers who were unable to breastfeed, and eventually came up with a concoction he called farine lactée, based, as he put it, on “wholesome Swiss milk and a cereal component baked by a special process of my invention”. In 1867, he fed this to a premature baby boy whose mother was dangerously ill herself; the boy survived, and Nestlé’s reputation skyrocketed. The following year he opened an office in London to cope with the quantity of orders, and within five years was exporting to South America and Australia. In 1874 he sold his company for a million francs.


I don't think you will find anyone here who claims that there is no need for formula in today's society. I for one am glad it exists, because otherwise women who couldn't or chose not to breastfeed would have to feed cow's milk, goat's milk, etc. to their babies.


The issue here is that sehorse is claiming that there are no risks to formula, or rather that we are failing to show her these risks, to her satisfaction.


Just because a baby is unable to breastfeed, the risks don't suddenly disappear. They are just, well, worth the risk because the alternative is even riskier. Starvation, pretty risky in my book! ;-)


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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:43am

Before the advent of commercial formula people did try mixes and most babies fed this way died. But it wasn't due to the substance per se, but rather due to the uncleanliness of the period before about 100 years ago. It just so happens that antibiotics, knowledge about germs, handwashing etc. all started being used more around about when formula (commercial) started being more widely used.

However, ALSO before the advent of formula, LOTS of kids were wet-nursed, which did help them survive. I think it was in the 1700's, maybe 1800's that there was an orphenage in Dublin Ireland that tried to feed babies bottles of cow milk or some sort of mix. Their death rate was somewhere around *96%*. Other contemporary orphenages that used wet-nurses had much MUCH lower death rates.




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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:43am

"I find it hard to believe that she has an Ivy League education or that she ever breastfed her children, I think she's a troll. Responding to her ridiculous, unfounded assertions just gives her her jollies."


I've made that accusation before.

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Fri, 10-26-2007 - 10:47am

"I dropped out of an Ivy league school....does that count?"


lol!

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