Has the debate changed?

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Registered: 01-16-2009
Has the debate changed?
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Wed, 09-01-2010 - 6:48pm

I was thinking about the debate - has it changed over the years? So I went back to see what we were debating in 2002.

Here's what I found - lots of names I don't recognize, more personal stories and feelings and not so much of the scientific studies:

Breast or Bottle?
Well now ... that would be the question with no simple answer. Or is it simple for you?
Did/do you breastfeed your baby or use a bottle? Did/do your baby bottles contain breastmilk or formula?
- cl-psstacy

I'm walking thru the mall. I see a mom with a brand new beautiful baby. I sit down on the bench next to hers. I compliment her on the baby. I ask, "Are you nursing or using bottles?" "Well, I'm trying to nurse", she replies, "but the baby was wanting to eat every two hours because I'm not making enough milk so we have bottles too." My next comment is to let her know that it is very normal for newborns to want to nurse frequently. The discussion continues with my informing the mom about supply/demand, etc.
Rude? Helpful?
- cl-psstacy

Does anyone here ever watch Dr. Phil?, m-
I normally don't but I heard they would discuss potty training yesterday and since my daughter 2yrs. cries if I try to put underpants on her, she wants her daiper, I thought I'd watch. Anyway he had a lady on about extended nursing she was still breastfeeding her baby along with 2 older siblings I think they were 5 and 8. Just thought that posed an interesting concept. How do you decide when is time to wean, either from breast, bottle, paci., or sippy cup?
- laroc3

New to this board, hope you don't mind & question......
I read an article from an archive on ABC that said many breastfeeding moms feel sorry for bottle fed babies. Is this true? I have never heard of that before and thought it to be a bit strange, maybe because the people that I know who have/had babies that breastfed always supported my decision.
- shoreluvr

How's this for debate--breastfeeding another woman's child (m)
Recently in my state, a daycare worker was fired for breastfeeding a daycare baby that was not her own. The worker said that she tried giving the baby other forms of nutrition and the baby refused everything, so she at last resorted to breastfeeding the infant (who was evidently a breastfed baby). Her defense (according to her lawyer) is that this is culturally accepted where she is from.
- janettemce

Lurker with a question (m)
I have read more than once on this board that some women are so uncomfortable about breastfeeding in front of anyone but their DH that they simply won't do it. I am puzzled by this.
- curly_girlie

Is breastmilk ALWAYS best?(m)
I was thinking about this last night as I spent another sleepless night with a screaming baby. My son is very sensitive . He screams for 24hr if I eat spicy foods, broccoili, cabbage, some greens (collards, mustard greens). He is also allergic to dairy. I was prepared for that, as my first was too and on soy formula.
- andreahg

Okay, does this bother anyone else as much as it bothers me? (m)
I have recently heard of a kind of bottle that is "hands-free". You can give your baby a bottle without even holding him/her!!!!!
- by lisabc311

Breastfed babies less likely to be abused?
"Independent research has shown that babies who cry more are more likely to be abused. Breastfed babies on average cry about half as much as bottle-fed ones. This is partly because they can be fed whenever they are hungry. They don't need to wait for formula to be mixed and bottles to be warmed up."
- janthony21

Want to look up some of the old debates yourself? I just put this in the address line, and then changed to the number - 1.1, 2.1, 3.1, etc.
http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-psbfvbottle&msg=1.1



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Registered: 01-16-2009
Wed, 09-01-2010 - 7:02pm

Still reading - our board has gotten so slow compared to years ago.

This one struck me - she was before here time! :D

here's a bizarre philosophical question...(M)
Why do we call them the benefits of BFing instead of the drawbacks of FF? I mean, BFing is totally natural (not easy, but natural!), and thusly, all taht goes along with it is as well. Why are these not classified as risks associated wtih use of formula? Any thoughts?
http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-psbfvbottle&msg=37.1



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Registered: 01-16-2009
Wed, 09-01-2010 - 7:23pm

Here's another change - posting articles was considered by some to be poor debate etiquette!

I was curious about the articles because they weren't (m)
accompanied by any debate question. If this is a debate board, not a BFing support board, why post articles without asking any particular question of participants here? On most debate boards I've seen, it's considered a waste of a thread to just post something without comment.

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-psbfvbottle&msg=84.6



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Registered: 11-04-2009
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 9:00am

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Here's what I found - lots of names I don't recognize, more personal stories and feelings and not so much of the scientific studies:


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The more active boards tend to have a lot more personal stories and feelings up for discussions, this board seems strictly about the science and facts and so not much will be debatable.

Lee

Lee

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Registered: 01-16-2009
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 9:25am

~~The more active boards tend to have a lot more personal stories and feelings up for discussions, this board seems strictly about the science and facts and so not much will be debatable.~~

That's what I remember about this board a few years back - we would have threads 100+ long and it would be mostly about personal stories and feelings and a lot more debate. I enjoyed it and I think more people felt comfortable joining in when it wasn't all about numbers and studies and science.

I agree - there really isn't as much to debate about hard numbers and facts. You can say you believe them or not, but then what do we have left to say?



~*~ Catherine, mom to three grown men - Jason, Michael & Joshua and Granma to Christopher & Leia.


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Registered: 06-16-2010
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 10:04am
I've lurked here for many years and on the old BF/FF debate before that. I see the board ebb and flow with posters. People's lives change, and sometimes there's a lot of activity, sometimes very little. Also, in the old days there was a more even distribution of FF vs BF debators. There was even a FF CL for a long time, IIRC. (When I say FF, I mean one who debates on "that" side; I know many BFers here were also FFers at one time or another)

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Thu, 09-02-2010 - 10:18am

~~I see the board ebb and flow with posters. People's lives change, and sometimes there's a lot of activity, sometimes very little.~~

Very true!

~~Also, in the old days there was a more even distribution of FF vs BF debators. ~~

I wonder if there is anything we can do to help make that more even again?

~~there was even a FF CL for a long time, IIRC.~~

Looking back thru the old posts, there were at least two or three CLs that were FFers.



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Registered: 03-29-2010
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 12:50pm
I think it has changed a bit. I started lurking here during YDS's pregnancy, about 2 years ago.
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Thu, 09-02-2010 - 1:27pm

~~ I do sometimes wish that we could have Off-Topic debates, LOL... I consider this my "main" board, and would like to debate all kinds of things with you guys. But, is that even "allowed" per TOS? ~~

I don't know? I see other boards have all sorts of debates so I don't think it's against TOS - perhaps I should ask our CM?

~~IDK, I like the board just fine, it has been a little slow lately, but, it'll pick back up!~~

Oh, I know it will pick up again - it's summer time and people are on holidays, etc. I am just bored and looking for things to talk about! LOL



~*~ Catherine, mom to three grown men - Jason, Michael & Joshua and Granma to Christopher & Leia.


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Thu, 09-02-2010 - 2:01pm

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Thu, 09-02-2010 - 2:06pm
GTKY?

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