I Formula Feed

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Registered: 07-07-2008
I Formula Feed
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Mon, 07-07-2008 - 7:50pm
I chose to formula feed my daughter. I love her with all my heart, and am a great mother (contray to what other mothers will say because I didn't BF). I gave my daughter the best 9 months of my life when pregnant...eating healthy, excerising, quit smoking, quit drinking, yada yada yada and I give her everything in this world now but yes I was selfish and formula fed and do not regret one second of it. I'm sorry that my husband, mother, sister can help with feedings and make a bottle themselves... I can go out for a night and not worry about having a glass of wine or I can go to the mall and not have to whip my boob out in the middle of the common area. And my daughter is extemely healthy and happy. I don't think Im going to hell because I formula feed nor do I feel I am a bad parent. My husband and I agreed formula was the way to go for us. I'm sure there are plenty of things BF'ing mothers do that other parents wouldn't agree with but that doesnt mean you should be crucified for it. I think other mothers should get off their high horse about bf'ing and realize its just not for everyone and you're not

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Registered: 06-17-2007
In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 8:55pm

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Because I'm the mother and I make the decisions.>>

Wow.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 8:57pm

"Unless there had been a contamination of the product, but that can happen with any type of food."

Not breastmilk straight from the tap. Since that is the topic at hand (and the comparison food in the discussion here), I find that to be a pretty important distinction.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:03pm
We are debating. What you don't seem to grasp is that you're on the side that doesn't have a whole lot going for it. If you really feel that formula has a lot going for it over breast milk, then you've got to start posting more data beyond arguments like "it's personal preference" and "I have to think of myself sometimes." Both of those claims are infinitely regressive and can be applied to all kinds of scenarios you probably wouldn't want used as supports for your arguments.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:06pm

"It's more like someone choosing to drink Kool Aid instead of Juice."

You do realize how badly you're contradicting yourself, right? Juice, while it does have a lot of unnecessary calories, has far more nutritional benefits than Kool-Aid, which has none. For the sake of your own arguments, you don't want to liken formula to an item with no nutritional value. This post, I believe, is really going to come back to haunt you.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:09pm
I never even once left home without my breasts! ;)
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Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:12pm

The use of sarcasm has been banned from this board by iVillage.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:22pm

>>I guess I'm missing on what is actually being debated, it's mainly about formula bashing. <<

Yes, Shari. I know you are "missing" what's being debated, because you still cling to the notion that the differences between breastmilk and formula are trivial.

I guess if the differences were trivial, statements about the breastmilk being better COULD come across as bashing, but if the differences aren't trivial the statements are just facts. For example, "Breastfeeding is normal." and "Formula is substandard." With the possible exception of a one in a million post, formula isn't considered "bad".

One caveat: whole slews of regular posters think the marketing of formula is evil.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:36pm

"All of the healthy FF adults are proof that they aren't any worse off than a BF one."

Wow, this is a really weak argument. In order to prove that FF doesn't cause any harm, then an adult who was FF as a child would have to never have been sick at all for any reason. If they aren't examples of that, then it really cannot be proven that they are the same. No one is the same. Even if you ignore the studies presented showing that bm is inherently better, it's hard to make a logical argument that, for the average person, something produced synthetically is better than something produced biologically.

Besides, I was ff and I get sick all the time. The major flaw with relying on anecdotal evidence is that one counterpoint can render it useless.

"I'm still here because this is a very one sided debate, I have to give some pro formula advice there isn't much here"

Then why don't you post some data that's not from your own experience? I have yet to see anything here so far to suggest that formula is more beneficial to the average baby than breastmilk. I've seen that you are happier, but I've already addressed the weakness of that argument.

Honestly, if the only reason you're here is to help the side of ff, you're wasting your time. Frankly, your arguments are so full of generalizations and logical fallacies that I'd hazard a guess you're hurting your side more than helping it. I mean, if I accepted your claims about seeing to your needs as the strongest support for ff, then I'd have to conclude that selfishness and self-aggrandizement are the hallmarks of ff. I really, really, really don't want to see it that way.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:39pm

"I did and they all benefited just fine."

As a nice side-effect, but not a direct intent, to be sure.

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In reply to: krsd0403
Sun, 08-03-2008 - 9:47pm

"I do know that there are many healthy people that were FF."

Let's carry this argument to absurdity. I happen to know a number of people who are still alive who survived the Holocaust. Does that mean that everyone did who wasn't murdered outright? This is why anecdotal arguments don't work- they are infinitely regressive and easily disproven by the introduction of other anecdotal evidence.

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