I have tried it both ways....long

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Registered: 03-31-2003
I have tried it both ways....long
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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 12:58pm
I bf my dd (now 6) and my ds (now 3) for about 20 months each. My third child (now 7 months old) was born with a cleft palatte and was unable to nurse. I pumped breast milk for 7 months and fed it to him from a bottle because I really wanted him to get the benefits of breast milk. When he was six weeks old, I was told I should give him a bottle of formula once a day so he would not reject the flavor when I stopped pumping. It was a horrible experience for both of us. He was very crabby and gassy. I gave up on formula after four weeks and fed him only breast milk after that. I am weaning myself off the pump now. I have a large supply of frozen breast milk which will last a couple of months, but I will have to give him formula again. Hopefully, now that he is older, he will handle it better.

In my opinion:

1. Breast feeding is SO MUCH EASIER THAN BOTTLE FEEDING. I hate dealing with the bottles every time I have to go somewhere (packing them up, keeping them cold, heating them up, etc.). Nursing mothers always have milk ready to go out the door.

2. Formula fed infants really do have "stinky poops". It is not a myth.

3. It is easier to "read" your babies hunger cries when you are nursing. Your body tells you it is time to feed baby when you hear the baby cry.

4. It is easier and faster to sooth a breast fed baby than a bottle fed baby. No waiting for bottles to heat up.

I'm sure this information is nothing that you haven't read before...but I thought it might be interesting to hear an opinion from one who has tried it both ways.

I know nursing is not for everyone....but if you are pregnant and debating, my advice is to give it a try. If it works for you then keep doing it, if not then switch. You won't know until you try.

For all the nursing moms out there...keep up the good work and enjoy this special time in your life.

Misty


p.s. The Lactina Select pump from Medela is amazing. If you have trouble nursing, but still want your baby to get breast milk...this is the best pump out there. They can be rented monthly for less than the cost of formula per month. I tried several pumps, but this was the only one able to keep my milk supply in production. I did feel like a cow sometimes, but it was worth it. Moooo, Mooooo

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 03-31-2003 - 1:47pm
Formula Feeding is *much* easier for me and our busy on-the-go lifestyle

So I really think it is a matter that is *personal* to the mother and how they live their lifestyle.

<<<1. Breast feeding is SO MUCH EASIER THAN BOTTLE FEEDING. I hate dealing with the bottles every time I have to go somewhere (packing them up, keeping them cold, heating them up, etc.). Nursing mothers always have milk ready to go out the door.>>>

I would not BFIP or at another person's home. So I'd have to EBM and keep up w/keeping the milk cool, the bottles, etc. I leave the house a minimum of 2x per day on an average day Sunday thru Friday. Saturday is the ONLY day I ever stay in ALL day. I have nothing to worry about w/formula feeding. Grab the bottle of sterile already-warm water and put it in the suv. The formula, bottles are already in the diaper bag that is packed 24/7 and ready to go. It *is* THAT easy for ME!



<<<2. Formula fed infants really do have "stinky poops". It is not a myth.>>>

Again, I think this is a personal thing. I've never grimaced or had a sour look on my face due to a diaper change and I really don't find them to be all that different as compared to my 2-yr old nieces diapers who was exclusively bf'd for 2 yrs.

<<<3. It is easier to "read" your babies hunger cries when you are nursing. Your body tells you it is time to feed baby when you hear the baby cry.>>>

Never an issue. I always knew when my baby would want his bottle, and had it ready before hand. Easy!

<<<4. It is easier and faster to sooth a breast fed baby than a bottle fed baby. No waiting for bottles to heat up.>>>

Again, I NEVER heat bottles. Water is sterilized & already warm in thermos whether we are here or on the go....warm bottle ready in seconds. As for boiling the water, I do that every morning while I'm cooking breakfast and perking coffee. I'd be in the kitchen the same exact time anyway. No big deal to pour the water, put on stove, wait for 5 minutes of boiling to complete and put in thermos.


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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 2:45pm


>>>I really think it is a matter that is *personal* to the mother and how they live their lifestyle.


True...thankfully this is a DEBATE board where everyone is entitiled to post thier own opinions.

I was not attacking anyone's lifestyle or choice, but rather I was stating the facts as I have experienced them. I would not recommend what I did (pumping full time for seven months) to anyone. I do suggest every pregnant woman try nursing while in the hospital. You will know by the time you go home if you want to keep doing it. The benefits to a baby can not be denied. In my case, my son has a birth defect which made me want to pump milk for him. He had many problems with milk coming out the nose and going in to the lungs. Since milk is a natural substance it was less likely to cause respritory problems for him. He was also more likely to get ear infections due to the cleft palatte, but again, breast milk helps prevent this. One more reason why I chose this way.



Again from my original post:

>>>>I know nursing is not for everyone....but if you are pregnant and debating, my advice is to give it a try. If it works for you then keep doing it, if not then switch. You won't know until you try.


Did you try? It may not have worked for you and that is fine. Your babies were still fed. I was just stating what I have learned from doing it both ways. I feel that breast feeding was easier FOR ME. But a pregnant woman will never know if she doesn't try. That is why I posted my opinion. To encourage others to at least try bf before the bottle.

If I offended ff mom's I apologize...I was just stating the facts as I have experienced them.

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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 2:53pm
LOL! Not offended AT ALL...NO REASON TO BE!!! ROTFLOL!

Just stating HOW it is for THIS Formula Feeding Mommy! It is such a personal thing. What one finds easy and fits into their lifestyle, another may not. What is a hassel for one is NOT for another. Just making that point in the debate :o)

I didn't take or read your post as attacking...just counteracting MY viewpoint of the bf/ff.

And I just stated the FACTS as the FACTS are for *my* lifestyle.

You can "suggest" every pregnant woman try bfing while in the hospital...but again, it *is* a personal choice for the mother to make. While I cannot use my breastmilk due to my high b/p meds...I will say I still would not bf'd....although I did research exclusive pumping extensively (especially since I'd spend the majority of time pumping & using EBM over actual bfing time w/the way we are on the go every day...we even dine out on the average 5 of the 7 nights per wk). I'm not offended at all by someone merely "suggesting" I try to bf'd....I will ultimately make my own educated & informed decision :o)






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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 6:29pm
Wow! Where do I start? I have 2 boys, ages 27 months and almost 5 and expecting #3 in August. When I was pregnant with ds1 I did a lot of research. All the research told me that breast was best. When he was born I was in the hospital for 5 days (had a c-section) and had a lot of help from the nurses and lactation consultants. Despite all the help, ds1 and I did not get the hang of bf-ing for quite some time. It took a good 2 weeks of the two of us working together to get latched on properly the first time, without a bunch of re-trys. I was very self-conscience about bf-ing in public or in front of anyone other than my husband. I just kept plugging away at it. There was a lot of times that I really wanted to give up and formula feed. I actually tried to give him formula a few times, but he totally rejected it. I guess he just really loved Mommy's milk. By the time he was 2 months old, I had become an old pro at bf-ing. I actually didn't mind bf-ing in public anymore. I actually got to the point that I didn't even need to use a blanket to cover. In the long run bf-ing has been great for us! It super convient and way less expensive. My ds1 continued to bf until he was 26 months. My ds2 is 27 months and still bf-ing. I have a feeling that I'll be tandem bf-ing, when the new baby comes.

Bf-ing really hasn't tied me down at all. They both drank from a sippy cup by the time they were a year old. I also didn't feel that I needed to go anywhere that I couldn't bring an infant. Plus I didn't think that they were ready to be left with anyone before they were a year old, either.

:)Meme

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Mon, 03-31-2003 - 6:57pm
I know I would NOT BFIP or at another person's house (unless I excused myself to a room where there was no one). That is just *me*. My sister bf'd my niece for 2 yrs and she ALWAYS excused herself or used EBM or supplemented w/formula. She didn't BFIP. It is just not something we are comfortable at doing.

And furthermore, I cannot use my breastmilk due to my b/p meds so I don't have a choice. But, yes, given a choice, I'd either formula feed or exclusively pump (which I've heard and read can be uneasy and even unsuccessful...while others are successful and find it easy).

Of course breast milk *is* best....surely you didn't think I was not saying that! But I *do* feel formula feeding is a fine nutritional alternative.

And for *ME* being on the go...NO bfip and having to pump/keep the EBM cool, etc. would be *more* of a hassel than the way I have my warm water ready & the formula in the diaper bag...bottle is ready in a matter of seconds. Would I have to take less? No. One can of formula would be the only thing absent from the diaper bag and whatever vehichle we are driving. I don't see that as "saving" me from packing stuff to go LOL If anything EBM would cause me to have to take more (something to keep the milk/bottles cool). Sometimes I'm away from home 30 minutes, other times it may be 4-5 hours, other times 2 hours. We also travel out of town regularly. Again, FFing is easier than trying to pump on the road in the middle of a 11 or 15hr drive!

I'm pro-bfing for those who desire to bf'd. I support those who desire to bf'd. But I'm very much pro-ffing and support ffers, even those by choice.

I'm on the go alot...minimum 2x a day, often more times. We dine out 5 our of 7 nights a wk. Formula feeding *IS* much easier for *ME*.

I'm a Housewife/Sahm....we have NEVER hired a babysitter!!! Both of our families live an one hour drive one way from our home. My sister lives nearby now, however is a Housewife/Sahm to two children. We take care of each other's kids on occasion but both of us believe in taking our kids everywhere w/us. If the kids are not w/us...they are with one of us or w/a grandparent. I'm trying to think of the last time I went anywhere (other than during school hours) that my DS (now 7) was w/an aunt or grandparent....it has been at least 6-8 months ago.

Expense is a personal thing. I have no issues w/the expense of formula. I saved about $2000 on groceries last year alone...I don't see buying formula beginning in June for the next 16-18 months is an issue. But this is a personal financial issue.

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Tue, 04-01-2003 - 8:16am
exclusively bf-d for 2 years???? was there a health reason why she never had solid food? i've never heard of that? in my experience bm poops have been pleasant until solids were introduced, but then i know no one who waited that long to start solids...
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Tue, 04-01-2003 - 8:37am
My DD#2 was exclusively BF for 12 months because she has GI problems. & let me tell you her poops stank to high heaven before she even had a bite of solids. I'm sure it had everything to do w/ her GI problems because DD#1 was also BF & her poop never smelled foul until she started solids & formula.

Janet & nursling Sierra

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Tue, 04-01-2003 - 8:39am
Look under the new thread about infant formulas...I *know* I posted to you back HERE but it landed THERE! UGH! Sorry!
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Tue, 04-01-2003 - 11:54am
these new boards have me spinning :-)... i saw it...

anyway, my guess is the supplentation w/formula may have effected her

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Tue, 04-01-2003 - 1:15pm
I don't know. I have another friend who bf'd both of her children for a long duration of time and those two little girls are so sick all the time!!! They just got over one of the worse cases of rotavirus I ever heard of going thru. Allergies. Asthma. Stomach viruses. Flu. My friend says she believes if someone calls them on the phone who is sick it gets thru the phone and the kids get sick for the next wk and are in/out of the pediatrician's office!

Besides...there was VERY little supplementing w/formula thru the 2 years....VERY little. My sister either fed her at home or I'd say 98% of the time she pumped for her.

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