Let's get things going here, ladies! (m)

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Let's get things going here, ladies! (m)
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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 5:01pm
How about a simple discussion to get things moving? (Is there such a thing?)

Smokers - should moms who smoke breastfeed their babies? I'm only referring to cigarettes here, not marijuana or other drugs. Is a bf'er who smokes doing more harm to her baby than good?

Michelle

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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 5:26pm
I personally would rather see a Mom smoke and BF than FF (obviously if she is NOT smoking around the baby!). In fact, I have a friend who smokes (trying her hardest to quit, poor thing) and the lactation consultant told her it was better to smoke and BF than FF. Her baby is healthy and happy.

Just my 2 cents!!!

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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 6:22pm
I personally would much rather see a mom FF than smoke and BF. I don't agree with the statement "Breast is best at all cost". There are certain situations where the bad outweighs the good. But if a mom smokes while BF, she most likely smoked during the pregnancy too, so I don't think she will be that concerned about her baby's health anyway. So it shouldn't be a big deal for her to switch to a totally adequate way of food, rather than taking the chance of already polluting baby's lungs.

JMO....Ilka



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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 6:26pm
I've seen articles that do say it is better to BF than FF even if you are a smoker, but I just don;t agree. Maybe medically it is "okay" but I still don;t think it's right. I am a former smoker, who quit because she had children. To me it wasn't that difficult to quit, although I do know some people who just can't seem to kick the habit. So, my point is, if it is sooooo hard for them to quit, what do they think they are doing to their children if they BF & still smoke? All those chemicals & bad cigarette stuff supposedly goes through breastmilk. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that the baby is also addicted? What do we do then? Start having them light up???? I know that sounds absurd, but honestly, I don;t think it's fair to subject an infant/toddler to your bad habit.

Janet & nursling Sierra

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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 8:21pm
Yah, I think I'm going to go with the majority here.....no bf is a smoking bf'er.

I can't stand smokers anyway(yes, eve my own mother), they are bad for MY health, not to mention my childrens' health.

I would much rather see a woman give her baby to someone else to feed, and then have her go outside and around the block to have her *drag*.......yuck.


christine


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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 8:24pm
Remember, the question posed was....should a smoking mom breastfeed or formula feed? So saying the Mom should quit isn't an option- that wasn't the question.

Here is some good information regarding smoking while breastfeeding. Obviously smoking while breastfeeding is NOT ideal, but I still think it's better than formula feeding and smoking.

http://www.kellymom.com/meds/smoking.html

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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 8:30pm
Here's some great info on this. It ain't pretty ladies......it's the awful truth. DON'T SMOKE WHILE PREGNANT OR BREASTFEEDING.

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html

One more thing.....it is selfish IMO to smoke and breastfeed. Who's more important?? The health of your suckling baby?? Or your disgusting deadly habit??


christine


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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 8:37pm
Here is a quote from the AAP:

"It may be that breastfeeding and smoking is less detrimental to the child than bottle feeding and smoking."

Here is the link to the whole article:

http://www.aap.org/policy/0063.html

*Once again, OBVIOUSLY I agree that a mother that smokes should stop. But that wasn't the question! It was- should a mother that smokes bf or ff? So let's debate THAT and not just say that they should quit!

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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 9:05pm
Did you read my last post?? The one that contained a link?? I thought I made it pretty clear where I stand. A mother that smokes should ff NOT bf.....nicotine among other things goes through the breastmilk and into the baby.

christine


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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 10:07pm
Smoking BFer here. Sorry, but I found Christine's article a little sensational, seeing as how I've seen much evidence to the contrary on some of the points re: BFing and smoking and I'm inclined to disregard it in my own mind. I did a *lot* of research when I started to have major cravings when Griff was 3 months old (I quit during my pg) and made a personal decision that a non-stressed mommy was more important than not smoking. I have also never been told by my doc or Griff's ped that smoking *outside* while BFing is bad, and I'm sure that someone would have said something if it was. If FFers can make the decision to feed a less-than-(nature's) perfect food because of stress than I can make a personal decision to smoke *and* to BF because of stress.

I truly believe that if a mother must smoke it is still better to BF than to FF, but it really depends on how much she is smoking. If she's doing 1 pack or more a day, then maybe it would be better for her to FF on the side of the nicotine consideration but the baby still will miss the immunological benefits of the BM. This is even more important if the mom smokes in the house or smoked during pregnancy (both of which I consider child abuse, BTW-the child shouldn't have to pay for your habit in the long run). If she's smoking very little (like me, 3 or 4 cigarettes a day and I don't want to hear any "why don't you just quit?") she can time them so the nicotine is out of her milk before she pumps or nurses and baby is not likely to suffer any ill effects (like I do).

Brook



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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 11:02pm
Brook.....why is it NOT ok for ff'ers to claim sensationalization in regard to links provided by bf'ers, but when a ff'er posts a link to some pretty intriguing info......it's called sensationalization??

It's ok for a bf'er to say to a ff'er......"ANY risk is too big a risk for MY baby". Yet, here we have some pretty interesting info and opinions on the matter with respect to the link I provided and yet you(a bf'ing smoker) can easily reject the notion. It seems a bit hypocritical to me. What happened to the "ANY risk is too big a risk", Brook??????


christine


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