Let's get things going here, ladies! (m)

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Let's get things going here, ladies! (m)
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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 5:01pm
How about a simple discussion to get things moving? (Is there such a thing?)

Smokers - should moms who smoke breastfeed their babies? I'm only referring to cigarettes here, not marijuana or other drugs. Is a bf'er who smokes doing more harm to her baby than good?

Michelle

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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 3:30pm
I agree! My father's oncologist suggested we keep ALL smoking OUT of the house. Suggested we "cleanse" everything and get rid of the nicotine out of window treatments, carpets, etc. Continued exposure NOT a good thing. I permit NO smoking in *my* house, any of *MY* vehichles, and we dine out I'd say on the average 5 out of 7 nights per week...IN THE NON-SMOKING AREA (and I request NOT to be seated at the table in non-smoking RIGHT next to the smoking area)! I'll gladly wait EXTRA LONG for the appropriate table that benefits our health!
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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 3:32pm
Lisa........if it were only nicotine exposure we're talking about!! For crying out loud do you know how many substances are in cigarettes?? Any idea?? Thousands?? Hundreds??

Ugh.....

Disgusting and selfish habit.

christine


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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 4:37pm
You are right - a few of the links are broken and some of them did not deal DIRECTLY with smoking and breastfeeding; however, some of the links DO deal directly with smoking and breastfeeding, for example:

The "Growth of brain neurons to process nicotine" link leads to an article called "Nicotinic receptor expression following nicotine exposure via maternal milk" written by the school of pharmacy at Auburn University which talks all about nicotine and breastmilk. For example:

"Studies have shown nicotine is excreted into maternal milk, so that suckling offspring would be a target of the drug during the pre-weaning period. Since nicotine exposure leads to an upregulation of neuronal nicotinic receptors, this study examines the hypothesis that nicotine delivered via maternal milk is capable of altering neuronal nicotinic receptor regulation in the drug-exposed rat pups. The present study showed that postnatal nicotine exposure via maternal milk was sufficient to induce an upregulation in brain nicotinic receptors similar to that seen in adults that smoke. SUCH EXPOSURE MAY RESULT IN ALTERED DEVELOPMENT AND SYNAPTIC ACTIVITY AND STRUCTURE, POTENTIALLY LEADING TO LONG-TERM BEHAVIORAL, LEARNING, and MEMORY DEFICITS."

The "Colic" link led to an article entitled "Breastfeeding: Effects of smoking and education," which said in part:

"Forty percent of infants breastfed by smokers suffered from colic or excessive crying, as compared with 26% of the children of non-smokers."

The "70% increase in respiratory infections for first 6 months" link leads to an article called "Breastfeeding, maternal smoking and lower respiratory tract infections."

And what about the AAP link?

Sue

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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 4:38pm
The American Lung Association says women should not smoke while breastfeeding.

http://cerhr.niehs.nih.gov/genpub/topics/smoking-ccae.html#Smoking%20while%20Breast%20Feeding

"Smoking while Breast Feeding: According to the American Lung Association® (American Lung Association September 2000), women should not smoke while breast feeding because, "Breast milk often contains whatever is in the woman's body. If the woman smokes, the baby ingests the nicotine in her breast milk."



(Edited because it's "women" not "woman")


Edited 3/27/2003 5:50:58 PM ET by susanmarch

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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 5:03pm
I never brought up smoking indoors or out, WHERE YOU SMOKE IS NOT THE ISSUE. I am solely talking about the chemicals in the BM. Air quality is not my arguement.

Janet & nursling Sierra

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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 5:26pm
ITA...what is *in* the breastmilk. What they may discover down the road is *IN* the breastmilk is *my* point!
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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 6:44pm
and IMHO people who smoke either while pregnant or while nursing are selfish. I cannot understand why any mother would expose her baby to such risks. It is just plain selfish and borders on child abuse if you ask me.

If you only smoke a few a day it shouldn't be that hard to quit. Wouldn't you want to do the BEST for your baby? Aside from all the medical reasons NOT to smoke while pregnant or breastfeeding don't you owe it to your child to be around until they reach adulthood? I'm sorry but I do everything in my power to stay healthy for my children....anyone who doesn't again is just selfish IMHO.

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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 6:47pm
"Medically, nicotine is in the same category."



Yes keep telling yourself that one!LOL!

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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 10:26pm
Well, excuuuuuuuse me for going to work. I didn't realize that this debate was more important than earning money to support my family. I'm sorry, but I'm done debating with you. It's obvious that I'm just wasting my breath and precious time debating with you. I should have learned my lesson the first (and second) times I debated with you. You make a very poor cl for this board IMHO and this will be the end of my time here. As a cl you should treat people with a little more respect even if you do disagree with them.

Brook

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Sat, 03-29-2003 - 4:41am
Can we please all calm down? I hate to have to post this, I like the people on this board, but I think this has gone a little far.

I agree that smoking while breastfeeding isn't the best, but I don't think that justifies the number of people who have gone after mommy_moonstar for what she does.

Can we try to limit our criticism of breastfeeding and smoking to the action rather than the person, please?

i.e. "I think that breastfeeding while smoking is detrimental to the baby's health" or "Mothers' smoking is detrimental to the baby's health" rather than "Mothers who smoke while breastfeeding are selfish."

Thanks,

Sarah

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