A need to stand united!
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A need to stand united!
| Wed, 05-23-2007 - 1:23am |
I KNOW I KNOW - this is a debate board, and therefore welcomes viewpoints from both sides of this never-ending issue. However, I just wanted to say that after reading many posts, absorbing opinions and info, that it seems like at the end of the day, we all really want the same thing. We want our children to be healthy and happy, we'd like to go pee without a boob in anyone's mouth, LOL, and possibly for a teeny bit more help with issues outside of feeding.
So, I think, that we really need to put on a united front as mothers, not just as breast feeders or bottle feeders. {I personally chose to breastfeed my 2 kids and will do the same to my next, due in January}, but that does not mean that I can't understand the exasperation and frustration that sometimes accompanies being a walking supermarket! Is it worth it? Yes, I feel it is. It's not always easy, but HELL, this is motherhood we're talking about; it isn't supposed to be! But at the end of the day, even after weaning my children and switching to formula, my ideals and hopes for them were identical.
Just wanted to allow for a small breather, and put a voice to some of the compassion and empathy that I feel for both sides of this issue, regardless of my personal preference.
Best of luck to ALL!
Tabitha, (24)
Winnipeg, MB. Canada.
So, I think, that we really need to put on a united front as mothers, not just as breast feeders or bottle feeders. {I personally chose to breastfeed my 2 kids and will do the same to my next, due in January}, but that does not mean that I can't understand the exasperation and frustration that sometimes accompanies being a walking supermarket! Is it worth it? Yes, I feel it is. It's not always easy, but HELL, this is motherhood we're talking about; it isn't supposed to be! But at the end of the day, even after weaning my children and switching to formula, my ideals and hopes for them were identical.
Just wanted to allow for a small breather, and put a voice to some of the compassion and empathy that I feel for both sides of this issue, regardless of my personal preference.
Best of luck to ALL!
Tabitha, (24)
Winnipeg, MB. Canada.

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""Good luck TTC, Lori! I can't say I know how you feel as I have a DD. I just know how secondary infertility feels. It's so frustrating to see others get pregnant with no trouble at all and you get a BFN every month. (((Hugs))) ""
Thanks!! :)
Lori
**Navy Wife to Eddie since Dec 2002**
<<""Good luck TTC, Lori! I can't say I know how you feel as I have a DD. I just know how secondary infertility feels. It's so frustrating to see others get pregnant with no trouble at all and you get a BFN every month. (((Hugs))) ""
Thanks!! :) It is really frustrating, but we haven't given up yet. My acupuncturist is still very optimistic that we'll get my system completely on track -- I'm already 1000 times better than I was a year ago, but my cycle's still a bit off.
Baby dust to you too!!! :)>>
Baby dust to both of you! I have no firsthand experience with infertility, but I went through three years of heartbreak and dissappointment with my sister (who now has a 7 month old dd and is trying again!) So although I can't empathize, I can certainly sympathize!!!!
Karin (now, if i could only spell....lol)
I'm curious why she missed out on 3 months? Did she stay on the medication - breastfeeding but unable to function for 3 whole months before they figured out it was the medication? Did the medication stay in her system long after she stopped taking it? How was she able to breastfeed during that time? In what way did she "miss out"? She obviously had physical contact for what - 6 times a day??
Well she was on the medication for about two months I believe and I am really not sure how depression works...but by the time she realized or actually her husband realized what was going on...she was already in a very deep depression...she also suffered anxiety with it as well. They did stop the medication once they figured out what was going on. She stopped breastfeeding also because once she stopped the medicine her milk supply dried up. She was unable to care for herself much less her daughter. My mother had to go and stay with her and take care of her. She ended up being put on an anti-depressive and going to see a therapist. So yes was she physically in the room with her daugher...but she was in no way able to be there for her the way a mother normally would be able to.
Once again, breastfeeding could have continued, with or without the medication. Breastfeeding didn't cause your sister to lose 3 months of her daughter's life.
Okay I am not really sure how she could have continued breastfeeding if her milk supply was drying up. Within a week of stopping the medicine she in no way had even close to enough milk to feed a almost one year old child. It is your opinion that breastfeeding did not cause my sister to lost 3 months of her daughter's life. I completely disagree. It was my sisters desire to *breastfeed* that led her to take the medicine which in turn caused her to lose three months of her daughters life. Did breastfeeding physically cause it, no, but it certainly played a part in it.
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I'm confused. I've been following along, but maybe I missed something-- would you mind either confirming or clarifying?
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::The onset of the supply issues was at around 9 months of age (for your niece), at which time the Reglan was prescribed?
::The Reglan regiment resulted in severe depression that left your sister unable to adequately care for herself or her baby.
::Your mother moved in, at some point w/in those initial 2 months, to care for the baby (who was still being breastfed several times per day) and your sister.
::The depression & supplemental care (your mother) persisted for (at least) two months before her DH noticed that something was seriously wrong, at which time Reglan was discontinued.
::Without the Reglan, your sister didn't have enough breastfmilk to feed your approx. 11 month old niece, as her supply was drying up.
::It took (approximately) another 4 weeks and anti-depressants to reverse the adverse affectsof Reglan, which concluded just shy of the first birthday mark.
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Is that an accurate summary? Am I understanding correctly that, at no time during this ordeal, did your sister ever use artificial formula (again, I might have missed this, so please clarify)? You noted (in one post) that her physician was very knowledgable about lactation science, and that many other remedies for her low supply were tried prior to Reglan, if I recall correctly. When, exactly, did the low supply issues begin? What was the baby supplemented with while those other supply increasing remedies were tried and (presumably) failed?
Also, I'm curious, when did your niece start solids?
When you say that your sister didn't have enough milk to feed 'an almost 1 yr. old' when the Reglan was discontinued, was your sister attempting to exclusively breastfeed her 'almost 1 yr. old'? Otherwise, how much breastmilk did your sister require to feed her near toddler? I mean to ask, how was "enough" measured?
Why did it take DH so long to notice that something was so seriously wrong? Does he travel alot? It seems odd that he wouldn't have noticed, for almost **two months**, that his wife was so ill that she couldn't care for herself, or their baby, and that his mother-in-law had moved in-- particularly if this was a new development and she had been capable and independent before.
And, since I'm asking, was there no follow-up care after the Reglan was prescribed by her physician? Surely, the physician would have known of the potential side-effects, and also would have been (or should have been) concerned enough to follow-up on the health of the infant-- after all, the Reglan was prescribed to increase the supply to stave off unacceptable weigh loss. You would think that in two months a physician would have required some type of follow-up to make certain that the baby was progressing. Was your sister unable to attend follow-up appointments? Were there refills on her prescription without follow-up being required? And, one of the *warnings* given with the medication is to contact your physician **IMMEDIATELY** if personality changes and/or depression occur. If someone else took the baby for follow-up care, did they not mention the condition of Mom?
Obviously, you might not be privy to the all of the intimate details of your sister's course and care, but these are some of the questions that are bouncing around my head that just don't make for a lot of sense.
Jani
Jani
"Laughter is an orgasm triggered by the intercourse of sense and nonsense."
"Okay I am not really sure how she could have continued breastfeeding if her milk supply was drying up. Within a week of stopping the medicine she in no way had even close to enough milk to feed a almost one year old child."
A 1 year old child isn't breastfeeding exclusively. Typically.
I nursed my 1+ daughter long after my milk had dried up. There was SOMETHING she was getting, lots of antibodies, etc. I think one of the myths of breastfeeding is that it's an all or nothing proposition. Did anyone every suggest to your sister that she PARTIAL breastfeed during any of this time? Either while she was on the medication or when she came off?
Cathie
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