News: Mom Banned From FB Over Controversial Photo

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News: Mom Banned From FB Over Controversial Photo
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Fri, 07-27-2012 - 3:24pm

I think FB overreacted on this one:  http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Local-mom-banned-from-Facebook-over-controversial-photo-163979326.html

A woman posted a photo of her 5YO daughter pretending to nurse her 2YO sister on Facebook.  After she posted the photo, Facebook removed it and sent her a notice saying she had violated the site's policies.  Not only was the photo removed, but she was banned from Facebook for seven days.

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Registered: 04-13-2008
Fri, 07-27-2012 - 8:24pm

I think myself that I would not want to be putting pictures like that of my children on the internet. 

There are things that are cute within the family and between friends, that can also be used by pedophiles, if they get their hands on them. Years ago, toddlers and children would be in catalogues modelling underwear for store sales. Not any more, as pedophiles do get their hands on material that appeals to them. I know that this photo is innocent, but posting it even with permissions only to Facebook friends to see still means that it could be out in the open. It is easy enough for ahyone to copy a facebook photo and then do what they like with it.

I took photos of my children when they were little. Some are photos anyone could see, but photos of them in the bath, or cute photos but with less clothing rather than more are not for public sharing and viewing, even though we enjoy looking at them.

I wonder if people realise that anything that is posted anywhere on the internet is fair game and potentially permanently uneraseable.

I see this a lot with young people who post inciting comments about others publicly, and then wonder why the other people are threatening them back and want to, or do, physically bash them up.

Teresa

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Registered: 05-20-2008
I am not to worried about this photo causing a pedophile to engage in any sexual acts with children they would not have otherwise done or be useful any way in helping them convince a child to engage in sexual acts with them. A lot of people think that photos like this can lead to sexual abuse that would not have otherwise happen even though the photo is not inherently sexual. But I have found no credible evidence that any child molester has ever molested a child as a result of an otherwise innocent and legal though controversial photo of a child such as this or kids in there underwear. It is though that such photos might arouse the sex drive of pedophiles such that it breaks down their willpower to resists having sex with children but from all the evidence I have seen, if they are going to have sex with children it is not going to be the result of seeing material like this or the child underwear ads. I think the real issue is that we are bothered by the thought of them getting off in the privacy of their own home to the picture of child even if they never act of their sexual interest in children IRL. The real concern is not simply some guy (or women) getting of on the though of having sex with children but the one's who actually acts on the attraction to children. If a sudden rash of sex offenders all claimed they where motivated to molest their child victims based on seeing several episodes of Sesame Street, Would we advocate banning that show in the name of protecting children form sex offenders? I doubt most people would. The fact is that this breastfeeding is non-sexual and I don't see pretending to breastfeed as sexual either. The fact it involves children does not change that in my view.

My concern here with the argument that we wouldn't want pedophiles to get their hands on photos like this is that it seems to imply, whether intended or not, that pretending to BF is somehow sexual. I hear the same argument made about ext. BF'ing where people claim without any proof that older children perceive the breast as sexual in the same way adults do and thus suckling on moms breast is not that much different to the child as dad doing that as a sexual act. I imagine some will argue that even if the act of a child pretending to BF is not intended as sexual, some pedophiles will get off it none-the-less as some sort of child BF fetish. Assuming one is not otherwise anti-extended BF'ing, would one feel the same way about a photo of a child that age actually breastfeeding or child's mom still NIP'ing at that age? What about people who get off sexually on seeing women nursing in public, should that be an argument against allowing it in public?

I think a greater argument for not putting the photo up on Facebook or elsewhere on the net is that it simply is too controversial. It is much the reason why I stopped NIP'ing after my child reached a certain age. I didn't feel their was anything wrong with continuing to BF an older child but I simply did not want to deal with the brouhaha doing that in public would have likely caused. Keeping it in private did not prevent me from nursing as long as me and my DS mutually desired.

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Registered: 04-13-2008

I would agree with you that the presence or absence  of photos is not likely to induce someone to engage in actual acts of pedophilia.

However, I would hate the thought of an innocent family photo being shared around such networks. It does happen. It is a world-wide well organised group ,and they get images from wherever they can and share them elctronically. Men who engage in this are frequently asked to supply worse and worse photographic images in order to be provided with other similar images from these groups. I read of a case where a father actually got his own daughter into a gym class for the express purpose of being able to go along to the gym class and take photos of the his own daughter and the other youngsters in their skimpy clothing. He was eventually caught and charged. But it is quite insidiiious how these groups operate and try to get photos. 

I have photos of my children that are definitely not for public viewing.

Teresa