NIP Article - reader's comments
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NIP Article - reader's comments
| Sun, 09-09-2007 - 10:53pm |
Here's an seemingly innocent article on a nurse-in at an Applebees. However, if you read the reader comments...boy oh boy! Talk about some ignorant remarks. One of them even equated NIP to smoking! Unbelievable. I thought it would be a good thing to discuss on here, especially since our resident FF/anti-NIP'ers are feeling underrepresented.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/0908breastfeeding--ON.html
BF'ers, be prepared to be astounded.























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I used to be jealous of all the hair too, but now I realize how much easier it is to not have to deal with it on a tiny baby.
Elissa
Powered by CGISpy.com Thank you Li
Btw, Kylie had little hair before one.
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If having normal thoughts & behavior, and providing for normal and expected aspects of childcare is considered to be "arrogant", I'll step up to the plate and say that I am that and some. I don't think about, concern myself with, or give one iota of care to the plainly ridiculous desires of others, just because it would make them 'comfortable'. This isn't a matter of people 'thinking that they should have to go out of their way' to satisfy the absurd and unrealistic expectations of the person sitting on the park bench who can't stand the idea of a woman nursing her baby because said normal activity makes her 'uncomfortable'. My response, my reaction, and my stance to such abnormal notions is, unequivicably, "deal with it". The only *issue* surrounding NIPing is the appropriateness of feeding a baby.
There are people who are uncomfortable around minorities... downright hate them. There is no specific law stating that a person is required to interact with minorities. Therefore, should minorities, in an effort to respect the comfort level of bigots, refrain from doing things and going to places that would put them in contact with people who are not of their own background?
There's a whole sect of the CFBC group that abhors children. They refer to parents as "breeders", and liken children to less-than-pets (subhuman). Many have expressed the belief that children should not be allowed in restaurants, on airplanes, or in a great many public places where human beings of all ages & stages are otherwise allowed to be, including parks, museums, theme parks, vacation spots, etc... Is it your position, then, that to ensure the comfort of these (rare) people that *we* (parents) should go out of our way to avoid public locations lest we would wrongly offend their delicate sensibilities?
Many people are startled and left feeling awkward and uncomfortable when in the company of someone who has severe deformities, profound retardation, or severe disfiguring injuries. They don't know where to look, or what to say. Their discomfort is almost palpable. Should people who have disabilties or appearances that are widely known to unsettle people refrain from going into public, because someone's comfort level will, inevitably, be shaken?
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People deserve accomodation for those feelings and expectations that are *normal*, *reasonable*, *necessary to maintain order*, and that don't otherwise infringe upon the health, safety, and well-being of others. Every ridiculous notion, idea, sensitivity, feeling, want or desire does not need to be, nor should be accomodated. Feeding a baby is NORMAL. Getting worked up about a baby being fed is NOT.
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I thought that irony was banned on this board...
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Finally something upon which we can agree! I'm frequently baffled as to why fully grown adults think that their relatively minor discomfort associated with their abnormal view of a normal activity (baby feeding) would trump the needs of a helpless infant to be fed. I mean, it truly boggles the mind, doesn't it? You would think, at least after reaching the age of majority, that an adult would have the coping & social skills necessary to differentiate between their 'wants' vs. someone elses 'need', and proceed accordingly. I think that it leaves little doubt, in a prudent mind, how to weigh the merits of "ick" vs. "survival".
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So says those with abnormal and unnatural sensitivities....
Jani
Jani
"Laughter is an orgasm triggered by the intercourse of sense and nonsense."
Jani,
There are actually times where I might not agree with you however, I always will respect you for your eloquance and ability to put words in such a way as to be profound!
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How is breastfeeding a baby tantamount to public exhibitionism? As a matter of fact, many laws specifically spell out that breastfeeding is *NOT* akin to exhibitionisn/inappropriate exposure. Do you view yourself as an exhibitionist when you feed your child within the line of sight of others, with a bottle-- that is in essence a fake breast? You seem to view a breast being used to feed a child as the same as a breast in the midst of a sexual act. So, I wonder, do you view bottles in the same way that you might view a sexual substitute/toy, and get worked up when you see someone doing *that* in public?
Breastfeeding 'behavior' is inherantly *unselfish*. The immediate and greatest benefits are not realized by the woman, rather
Jani
"Laughter is an orgasm triggered by the intercourse of sense and nonsense."
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In stores, in malls, in drs offices, in hospitals, on the bus, on the subway, in parks, in restaurants. Never with a blanket, sling or nursing cape. No special nursing clothes, and no skin exposed.
Now it's been years since I last nursed, but I have seen several women NIP recently here in Oshawa and Whitby. So I know it still happens. {wink}
There have been and are still tons of women who NIP their babies in and around Toronto, and the fact that you never noticed does not mean it doesn't happen. It just means it doesn't happen to be as "in your face" as many people seem to think.>>
Coming in late to this thread but I have lived in Southern Ontario my whole life.
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So, according to you, you stared and frowned at a woman nursing her baby. And, presumably, you've been taught that staring and frowning at people in a coffe shop is appropriate, normal & expected behavior?!?
According to your story, the baby, at some point would have been attached to the oh-so-offensive breast. The 'natural' cover-up. Why then, would you continue to behave so inappropriately, and go out of your way to try to see the woman's breast (given that it offends you so)? That' seems a bit strange. And, in a coffee shop, you couldn't find anything that concerned you or your purpose to look at? That seems even more strange & unlikely.
FTR, I've breastfed both of my boys in the very area that you're speaking of, and I've thought it quite a bit different from
Jani
"Laughter is an orgasm triggered by the intercourse of sense and nonsense."
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Jani
"Laughter is an orgasm triggered by the intercourse of sense and nonsense."
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