Posting photos of nursing babies online

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Wed, 09-05-2007 - 10:52am

On another board, a poster has a long siggy that includes a slideshow of nursing babies from her playgroup. Another poster took offense at it and there has been quite the debate over the appropriateness of the siggy. I posted a message inviting people here to discuss that issue, and I hope that one of the posters from that particular playgroup comes here, at least so we can see what the siggy looks like. I'm having a hard time forming coherent thoughts today, LOL! So don't worry if I don't come back to debate the issue with you, I'm trying to get out of the office so I can go home & sleep.


As "Linda Richmond" (aka Mike Myers) from SNL would say, "talk amongst yourselves."

Mary


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Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:15pm

The crux of it seems to me to be that many BF moms think that FF moms choose formula because they are just not as informed/intelligent/caring as they are.


Please don't.

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Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:15pm

Thank you very much for your kind response. Sorry I am just in an icky mood and had to get it out (my 2 yr old and I are sick). I am just sick of being treated like an uninformed idiot because of a decision that I had to make for the safety and well being of my children and myself. I really just wanted to post to this debate because when I first saw the snowboobies blinky thing I was turned off and thought I could offer some insight to why some people may not like it also...then I went and put myself in the debate I hate the most...my fault really!!!

Thanks,

Kerri

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Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:16pm

Don't you see though, that you and your dd are the reason formula exists in the first place? No one on this board will ever fault a mother for feeding her child formula because she cannot breastfeed. It doesn't have to be a biological basis for the inability, but medical reasons are also very valid. My older sister has Chron's/UC and because of her medication cocktail cannot even entertain the idea of having a child, let alone bf'ing one. I hope you don't take offense to what is said here, it's meant to be educational to the mothers who, unlike you, choose simply not to bf because it doesn't suit their lifestyle.

Elissa


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Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:26pm

Don't bother, it wasn't peer-reviewed, so it won't mean anything (to her).


Peer reviewed articles are pretty darn hard to find it

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Registered: 09-22-2004
Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:26pm

OK now getting myself even further in, but if it is truly a lifestyle choice then the mother could resent the child for breastfeeding and the changes in routine that it could entail. So now we run into the risk/benefit analysis. Personally, I think that a strong bond between parent and child is far more beneficial than the risk of resentment. It can also be said that a person feeling this way should not have a child, but unfortunately it is not our choice of who can breed. Therefore if a mother makes the decision to formula feed her child because that will make her a better mom, than who can even start to pass judgment on that mother. Of all of the ffing mommies that I know, I have not found one who is not informed on the benefits of breast milk over formula. I work with a large range of people from different cultures and socioeconomic status and really have not found the truth in the assumption that ff mommies are un or misinformed.

Kerri

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Registered: 11-06-2003
Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:54pm

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LOL, I have access to all journals published by the American Psychological Association, but there's not too many articles that reference breastfeeding (I've looked). Besides, I think posting an article on a public site would violate terms of service. There's absolutely no reason an abstract can't be taken as proof. It pretty much captures what the study says, in easier to understand language. It seems that not accepting an abstract is just a smokescreen. As long as an article can quote a study, and that study can be accessed by someone, I'd say the majority of publications that reference a scholarly article are legitimately echoing the results of a study. Sure, lots of stuff on-line can be dismissed as bunk, but there are legitimate sources of information out there, and this board does a good job of seperating the two.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Sun, 09-09-2007 - 6:58pm

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It's possible, she *could*. But what would be so terrible about that, really? Resentment to an extreme would be detrimental, of course, but resentment is a normal human emotion. I think it's well within the range of "normal" for a mother to feel a twinge of "hey, this is a lot harder than I thought it was going to be", every once in awhile. Motherhood brings about changes in a woman's life...any woman's life, whether she BF's or not. I'll be the first to admit that I have felt a tiny bit of resentment toward my son at various times since I became PG with him! That's right, I was annoyed with him from a very early point, LOL. But for me, those negative feelings just make me want to work harder. I realize that I don't like feeling that way, because it reflects poorly on both of us, and I do something differently to make it work. I can't speak for everyone, but I know it was just another part of parenthood, and we get through it and it passes.

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Certainly, a "strong bond" will be more "beneficial than...resentment". But again, what is so terrible about feelings of resentment? They are *just* feelings. They usually pass. If they don't, there are probably underlying issues to resolve. I don't believe that the decision not to BF, just because of the *risk* of resentment, is a very good reason, sorry. And if we want to talk about risk, let's examine the *risk* inherent in formula-feeding! Fleeting feelings of resentment due to BF in infancy vs. life-long potential risk because of FF. No contest there, IMO.

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Please elaborate here. What is it about FF that makes better mothers? And who's "judging" mothers here? We judge *substances* and *choices*, not *people* in this debate.

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Then you must know some really erudite people. I know all kinds of people who are misinformed about FF, and they too are from a broad spectrum of lifestyles, cultural backgrounds, educational levels and professions; I know some very smart people who have made some very uninformed choices in their lives.

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Registered: 11-06-2003
Sun, 09-09-2007 - 7:04pm

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The very fact that one is informed of the "benefits" of breastmilk pretty much proves the point that most people (and I would include myself in that group) are ignorant when it comes to infant nutrition. How does the biological standard confer "benefits" on an infant? My DD was born with an innate bodily need for breastmilk. If I did not give it to her, her body would be lacking the 160+ ingredients that breast milk has that formula doesn't. Are those 160+ ingredients there "just because"?

The fact is, her body NEEDED those ingredients. This is a fact. If you wish to read anything into that statement beyond what is written, that's your perogative. As others have pointed out, not everyone can breastfeed. Quality infant formula should be available for those babies who can't have breastmilk. But it's a complete fallacy to think that breastfeeders are going "above and beyond" by nursing their children. That's just not true. Breastmilk is what babies expect. It's the standard.

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Registered: 09-05-2007
Sun, 09-09-2007 - 7:43pm
No, I am saying nothing of the sort. I believe that what I am saying is quite clear... I'm questioning the credibility of the author of the article.
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Registered: 09-05-2007
Sun, 09-09-2007 - 7:47pm

Please point out where I said any of these things:

1. Corn syrup is not in formula
2. Corn syrup is good
3. Lactose is not better for babies

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