Posting photos of nursing babies online

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Posting photos of nursing babies online
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Wed, 09-05-2007 - 10:52am

On another board, a poster has a long siggy that includes a slideshow of nursing babies from her playgroup. Another poster took offense at it and there has been quite the debate over the appropriateness of the siggy. I posted a message inviting people here to discuss that issue, and I hope that one of the posters from that particular playgroup comes here, at least so we can see what the siggy looks like. I'm having a hard time forming coherent thoughts today, LOL! So don't worry if I don't come back to debate the issue with you, I'm trying to get out of the office so I can go home & sleep.


As "Linda Richmond" (aka Mike Myers) from SNL would say, "talk amongst yourselves."

Mary


Mom to Kevin 11/04/2003


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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 10:44am

I just wanted to say, I LOVE IT!!


Even if my photo with baby isn't there I have always support the snowboolicious photo tag!!


You go girls, mm I might add my photo to the 8 month update.



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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 5:46pm

"I tend to stick to tried and true, common sense methods. I don't buy into New Age parenting philosophies any more than I buy into all the claims that formula kills."


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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 5:52pm

"Ri-i-i-g-h-t.....and that has nothing to do with violence on TV, violent toys and violence in real life. All those poor violent, non-physical people just didn't get enough hugs and cuddles. @@"


Yes, as we all know, violence didn't exist prior to the invention of television


You really think tv and video games have a bigger impact on the way a child turns out than his/her parents do?

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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 8:40pm

"You really think tv and video games have a bigger impact on the way a child turns out than his/her parents do?

Cathie

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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 9:46pm
Very well said, tlflag1620!

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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 11:10pm

Fabulous post tlflag!!

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Fri, 09-14-2007 - 11:28pm
What a nice post to read!


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Sat, 09-15-2007 - 1:30am

I am having a bit of a problem digesting your argument on what has happened for tens of thousands of years. You seemed to paint our ancestors in a wonderful light when it comes to infants. I am not disagreeing with co-sleeping/baby wearing etc. However, they were not that great. Did mother nature tell them to abandon or kill children showing disabilities? Do you really think that we (this past hundred years or so) came up with CIO? I am sure that it has been done before, aside from formula it has all been done before. Should we beat/spank/hit our children because that is what has been done throughout history?

Luckily we have research today that can guide us to correctly raise our children, however this same gift is a curse when mothers take this as gospel instead of reading the cues of their child. My oldest needed to co-sleep, so we did. My 3 month old has never been able to fall asleep if not left on her own (she does not cry, just wiggles for a minute or so, then to night night land). If we are to stick to the current research (whatever they are saying today...but don't worry it will change tomorrow) my 3 month old will suffer ill effects from going to sleep the way she is comfortable doing so. This research has gifted us with the cure for diseases/vaccinations/and other wonderful medical advances, however for the infant I believe it should be taken as no more than advice the same with tradition. If it works for your child, then great, but you do not know what will work for another mother/child/

On another note, my mother didn't believe in CIO, and my husbands did. I really don't see any ill effects from either method now that we are adults. We have no way of knowing how the differing parenting methods will effect us later on in life if they even do at all. Can you tell if an adult has been breastfed, co-slept, or worn on their mother? The only way to find out the benefits to any individual would be to create a time machine, do the exact opposite parenting technique and still have the same exact life and see if this person suffered any detrimental effects. Do I believe that bging benefits infants, yes...Do I believe that this will impact the individuals overall health for life and form that person into who they are...I can't believe it, because there is no way to prove it.

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Sat, 09-15-2007 - 4:07am

"You seemed to paint our ancestors in a wonderful light when it comes to infants. I am not disagreeing with co-sleeping/baby wearing etc. However, they were not that great."


Elaborate... Counter tlflag's arguments... Point out the holes...


"Did mother nature tell them to abandon or kill children showing disabilities?"


Honestly? I would venture to say yes. From an anthropological aspect, it makes no sense in the advancement and survival of a species to have a weaker link. Survival of the fittest... We see this behavior even today with animals: Lets take a cat, for example. A female cat could give birth to a litter of 4. Now, 3 of those kittens may be perfectly healthy and viable. However, that 4th might be a sickly runt. Often times, the mother will carry the 3 other kittens away from the sickly runt, and abandon that particular kitten, to avoid wasting resources on a sickly, non-strong offspring. Heck, we even see it today in human specimens. We do quad-testing in pregnancy to check for genetic abnormalities and predispositions for "non-optimal" conditions. Some women choose to abort for these reasons. Others don't. The difference? We now live in a society that has the medical and scientific advancements to be able to make the best of a bad situation.


"Luckily we have research today that can guide us to correctly raise our children, however this same gift is a curse when mothers take this as gospel instead of reading the cues of their child."


And, the research that we have today has a very strong stance in the "traditional" methods of BF'ing, CLW, Co-Sleeping, etc to be the best guide and course of action. Yeah, certainly many babies that are subjected to the newer methods of child rearing (FF'ing, CIO, Segregated Sleeping, etc) can and often do turn out "just fine." But, this is not the optimal way to raise a child. It is amazing, to me, how complicated parenting in general has become. All this "research" can very well be doing us a disservice. We've become far too removed from instinctual parenting methods, that we now require "Professional Recommendations" and "Research shows" means to be able to just accomplish what should be a simple task: Get pregnant, birth a child, keep it alive. We have OVER complicated nature. We're paying for that...


"If we are to stick to the current research (whatever they are saying today...but don't worry it will change tomorrow) my 3 month old will suffer ill effects from going to sleep the way she is comfortable doing so."


Well, not to jinx it or anything, but your 3 month old very well may suffer ill effects from this. Of course, she might turn out "just fine." We won't know until it happens. And, I hate to focus on the negative, but, what happens if she does suffer ill effects of these methods? Should everyone just turn a blind eye, and not


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Sat, 09-15-2007 - 7:31am

" am having a bit of a problem digesting your argument on what has happened for tens of thousands of years. You seemed to paint our ancestors in a wonderful light when it comes to infants."


Actually, she was painting it as the time tested historical light.

Cathie

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