The Unbottled Truth About Formula

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The Unbottled Truth About Formula
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Fri, 10-03-2003 - 2:56am
I thought this article was very good. Shamelessly stolen from the other board!

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http://www.todaysparent.com/baby/breastfeeding/article.jsp?content=20030807_101250_216

Sherry

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Fri, 10-03-2003 - 7:44pm
this is an incredibly well-written article. i suspect i will go back to it a lot. thanks for sharing.

in light of recent conversations that touched on contamination from the air we breathe and the changing properties of i found the following quote the most interesting.

"Simply put, human milk is alive, says James Friel, professor of human nutrition at the University of Manitoba. “Some components are biologically active. They play a role that goes far beyond nutrition,” he explains. “For example, if you put an oxidant stressor — something like cigarette smoke — in breastmilk, it resists the stressor, and breastmilk does this better than formula even though formula contains more antioxidants. "

i'd love to see the science behind this...

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Sun, 10-05-2003 - 11:14am

but but but...how would smoke get into formula in the first place? (same with the other stressors bf needs to filter?)

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Sun, 10-05-2003 - 1:37pm
I am not sure but I think she means environmentally if the mother smokes. FF babies will be exposed to the smoke just as the breastfed babies(whose mothers smoke) are but the breast acts as a filter whereas the formula doesn't,kwim?~Lisa
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Sun, 10-05-2003 - 4:44pm

Yup, but I guess my point is, so what if bm filters cigarette smoke? Unless mom is a smoker, it's not really a "benefit".


That's what I saw in this article - a bunch of reasons bm is "better" that really didn't mean bm is better.

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Sun, 10-05-2003 - 5:16pm
What I took that to mean is that when an oxidant is present, bm resists it. I took that to mean that there is something in bm that is a better antioxidant than we are currently aware of, and whatever it is, it's not in formula. Antioxidants work when they're ingested, so the oxidant doesn't have to be IN the bm for the antioxidant to work. So, really, bm is better for second-hand smoke, too (whether from mother or a complete stranger. I don't like to see ANYONE smoking around a baby, whether they bf or ff. It's definitely one of my top pet peeves, probably second only to parents who spank or do other stupid things to babies who can't possibly understand what they've done wrong)

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Mon, 10-06-2003 - 8:17am

I don't mean to sound ignorant on this subject....but isn't it more the actual chemicals found in the smoke that you guys are discussing...not so much the "smoke" itself?


I always thought that the smoke itself went to the lungs and from there...it was the chemicals that were filtered out into the body (tar and nicotine to just mention a few).


Again, I am not trying to sound ignorant....just trying to get my mind straight.

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Mon, 10-06-2003 - 8:26am
Yup,the chemicals found in the smoke are the problem. Not all kinds of smoke pose the danger that cigarette smoke does, therefore it is about chemicals. Supposedly breastfed infants of smoking moms get less of the chemicals than a ff infant exposed to second hand smoke from a smoking mom.~Lisa
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Mon, 10-06-2003 - 10:12am

I am not going to claim to understand how that happens at all.

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Mon, 10-06-2003 - 10:23am
actually, i was going more for the second hand smoke idea. my point is that ff babies don't have the benefit of the changing properties of bm that may prepare them for things that they may encounter in the air around them (smoke and otherwise).
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Mon, 10-06-2003 - 10:32am
my understanding..and, i would welcome someone else to jump in here is that there are certain ingredients in bm that are not "bioavailable." a mother's body is designed to take "the best" from what she's eaten, breathed etc to make her milk. a mother's body puts the baby its nourishing ahead of her own. bf moms who don't eat well usually hurt themselves more than their babies.

so, it may be in the milk, but a baby is not digesting it and using it (vs say actually breathing it in the air and having the chemicals stay in their lungs).

otherwise, ugggh...i know people who've tried to quit. my father had a massive stroke at the age of only 50 and its completely related to smoking. he's permanently disable, can't speak, had one leg and many motor problem. i was exposed to heavy 2nd hand smoke for the first 17 years of my life. i wish you luck in quitting - i can't imagine how hard it is, but i've seen the effects first hand and hope you can find a method that works.

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