What SHOULD go into the decision (m)

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What SHOULD go into the decision (m)
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Tue, 01-01-2008 - 6:33pm

OK, I don't think anyone really denies that it is ultimately every mom's decision.

Cathie

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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:18am

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So your point is, formula is more risky because it has to be mixed with some source of water, and there is the potential for any source of water to be contaminated in some way... while breastmilk, which also contains water, is naturally filtered so that regardless of the source of water used, it is still going to be lower in toxins than water from the same source being used to mix formula, making formula intrinsically more hazardous to an infant's health.

If you were to make a study comparing infants fed with powdered formula and breastfed infants where the source of water is the same for both groups, the results would show that formula is more hazardous simply because it does not go through the same natural filtering process as breastmilk to prevent as many water-carried toxins to be transferred to the baby. If a formula-feeding parent and a breastfeeding parent were both in a situation where water quality was poor, the formula fed infant is going to suffer much more than the breastfed infant due to this lack of filtration. (think of Hurricane Katrina)
If both groups were given perfectly pure water, the formula fed group would still be at a higher risk because it is still incomplete nutrition. All things being equal, formula is sub-standard because of what it DOESN'T have... in this case, it does not have a reliable water filtering system.

It's not what formula IS that makes it dangerous, it's what it's NOT. Not sterile, not complete, not filtered, not alive, not adaptable.

Stephanie

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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:22am

but feel free to report me.


Nah, not really my style (unless some ignorant fly-by poster drobs the "N" bomb), but there are those quick with the RAV button.

siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:25am

Back at ya!


If you'd be so kind as to explain WHAT post you're referring to in offering my own advice back to me?

siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:27am
siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:29am

Organic, to many, is unattainable. Either financially, or b/c it isn't easy to get in a remote region or something.


Thanx for reminding posters of this, Fio!!


siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:37am

I read your words very carefully.

siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:39am

What, so she doesn't want to get roped into ad hominem, so you double dog dare her to try to goad her into it?

siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:40am

I think some of it depends a) on how you EAT your salad, and b) on how you DRESS your salad.

I bought a "meal" salad at Safeway the other day. It claimed 900 calories on the side of it, which is HUGE. It's like more than a meal basically. But that is assuming a) you use all the dressing and b) you don't pick anything off the salad. ;-) I scooped as much of the cheese (which is relatively high fat/calories) off the salad (it was grated on, so impossible to TOTALLY eliminate) and I used about 1/2 the dressing by dipping my fork tines in the dressing before piercing them through some salad to bring to my mouth. I wouldn't be surprised if my 900 cal. salad was closer to 750 or less by the time I'd done those 2 things.

Also, if you eat a filling meal and THEn have a salad as an addition, it can make you eat more than you really needed since eating cold things (think ice cream) is easier when you're full than eating hot things IME. If you eat your salad FIRST as an appetizer, 1/2 an hour before your meal (which is hot), then you tend to eat less, since hte salad has already filled you up a bit.





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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:40am

Just an FYI - the salads there are just as bad - even worse with the dressing added! Look primarily at the sodium content! It is amazing


You're so right!

siggy
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Fri, 01-11-2008 - 11:45am

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AND they all ingested water during that time period. Since water is another thing they all had in common, where does the fact that "all they had in common was formula" come from? It was just proven wrong by your own admission.****

So your hypothesis is that it is the *water* in formula that accounts for the differences in outcomes between formula and breastfed babies? That really makes sense to you? That WATER is the reason for the differences?

Go on...tell me more. Explain how water (not the lack of antibodies in breastmilk; the wrong proteins; the wrong carbohydrates; the wrong EVERYTHING) is causing the differences in outcomes.

I'm listening. I'm just having a hard time believing it has escaped the notice of every infant health researcher. I think the more logical explanation is that it's a non-issue. There's nothing in water that would cause these differences. Therefore, there has to be something else...now what would THAT be?

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