When is enough..........enough??

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Registered: 01-16-2009
When is enough..........enough??
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Thu, 09-02-2010 - 12:17am

When is it OK to say, "hey, ya know my infant isn't gaining weight and is screaming all the time, so I'm gonna feed him a bottle"?? How long should an infant lose weight, or at the very least NOT gain it?? How long should we allow an infant to act hungry yet not take the breast?? When is enough...enough?? Two weeks?? Three weeks??

Also, let's say for another debate point that a mother DID seek the advice of a lactation consultant yet STILL was having the issues. What then?? Continue on the same path?? Seek a second opinion?? Feel and maybe even hear that "you aren't doing it right"??

When is enough....enough?? Just make everyone content and stress-free....hand that baby a bottle of formula!!

Originally posted by Christine 02/05/2003
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Registered: 06-24-2008
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 9:03am
Enough is enough when the mother says it's enough. For me significant weight loss was enough to justify supplementation for a short time, which was suggested by a nurse and two LCs, at least one was an IBCLC. But she wasn't screaming, she was satisfied at the breast. She just was losing weight. If she had been screaming and upset every time I nursed, plus losing weight, that would have been so much harder. I'd have consulted with experts I trusted, but only I would have judged when enough was enough and I wouldn't be able to say what that point was. It wouldn't be arbitrary based on a set list of criterion. It'd be totally subjective, and I'd only know what that point was when I got there.

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Registered: 11-04-2009
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 9:07am
Since the issues are wide and varying, it has to be left to each individual mother assuming she is an intelligent and responsible person.

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Registered: 06-16-2010
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 9:59am

That's up to mom, I suppose, and it depends on so many things. How determined is she to meet her goal? Where is her threshold for pain/hearing her child scream? Has she seen a professional and does she even want to? Is her baby getting dehydrated?


I don't know when enough would be enough for me. I didn't have those issues. I did have trouble early on with my first, but I am stubborn as a mule and refused to give in. My child's health was not in jeapordy, though. If I thought for

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 11:55am

"Since the issues are wide and varying, it has to be left to each individual mother assuming she is an intelligent and responsible person."

I agree, with the usual caveat about education and knowledge, since many intelligent and responsible parents are misled about nutrition and breastfeeding solutions to breastfeeding challenges.

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Registered: 03-29-2010
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 12:24pm

I've lived this.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 1:45pm

I agree that "enough is enough" is really up to the indivvidual mother based on what she can handle and what information she has available to her.

Cathie

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Registered: 02-13-2007
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 3:27pm
I'm usually just a lurker, but I have a response for this one. : )


Enough for me was when Eleanor had dropped 11% of her body weight, my milk hadn't yet come in (I was only 3days pp), she was jaundiced, refusing the breast, and screaming her tiny little head off. My husband called and made me an appt with a LC, and I went fully expecting them to just tell me to keep at it and give me some pointers. Instead she looked me over and told me that I needed to use a pump for a few days to let my body heal, then use a shield after that, and in the meantime Eleanor needed to be supplemented. I was heartbroken, but the weight loss was my last straw.


We only supplemented for one 24 hour period though, and then my milk came in. I think being able to de-stress and just enjoy my baby helped. And the LC did give me quite a few pointers that helped see me through the next few trying weeks. I saw her once or twice more, and one other LC another time, and they were both wonderful.


So I guess "enough" for me led me to get help, and that help is what set me on the path of supplementing. But the second my milk came in we went cold turkey on the formula.


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Registered: 06-17-2007
Thu, 09-02-2010 - 8:31pm
Enough for me was when the hospital played the dead baby card. But generally I would say significant weight loss coupled with too little diaper output and a baby who is clearly unhappy. But I would always suggest pumping before formula supplementation.




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