Who said "Formula is evil"?

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Who said "Formula is evil"?
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Mon, 11-03-2008 - 12:14pm

Ok, we need to get back to debating - so I typed "formula is evil" into Google & found most were saying,



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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:27pm

"I never said it changed the composition of the substances? But harmful BM is not better than formula. Unmedicated BM would have been, but I didn't have unmedicated BM to give."


First, that depends on if it actually is harmful.

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:28pm

>>>>Than why didnt you ask?<<<<

Because, as I said, it didn't occur to me. I saw 300% and thought, wow, that's a major deal. Shame on me for not asking.

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:30pm

"I would be thinking the worst

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:31pm

"It did not occur to me that ear infection rates were so low to begin with. If 300% has more shock value it should not be surprising that I was more shocked by it.""


I would have to be low, wouldn't it?


If the rate was 20% to begin with, that would mean that 60% have ear infections?

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:35pm

>>>>But even assuming the med is truly contraindicated, maybe you couldn't provide bm free from contraindicated meds, but did you seek out a donor? That would have been the next best choice.<<<<

Apparently it's not recommended by the AAP or LLL as the next best choice. Milk banks seem to run into shortages and prioritize preemies (I assume new one's) and sick babies. M2M is not recommended and LLL says its leaders are to "not ever suggest an informal milk-donation arrangement" http://www.llli.org/Release/milksharing.html

Everything I have researched today is consistent with what I learned in less detail back then - milk bank was not an option because I didn't have a newborn or sick baby, and while I had heard a little about M2M it wasn't an idea I felt comfortable with.

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:36pm

>>>>HIV is killed by pasteurization. Ironically, mad cow disease is NOT. I'd worry more about the cow's milk ;) But at least you recognize that it is an emotional response, and in our current culture, not an uncommon one.<<<<

It's an emotional response for her, but what about for the AAP and LLL? How is her concern different than their stated concern?

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:39pm
Yes good points, your math is correct - but even if it was 30% and went to 90% (still really high if I had thought about it) that would be really significant. Or 20% to 60%, really significant. 2% to 6% doesn't sound so significant.
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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:47pm

"From what I have read (and linked in this thread) this is not recommended by the AAP. If it's a safe and easy process, what is the AAP's objection about?"


Probably the fact that in the US clean water is readily available and we (societal we) have come to accept ffing as "normal", while we see donor milk as "weird and exotic" (even though wet-nursing was quite common just a few generations ago).

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:53pm

"But that's a current behavior. "


And a choice made by an adult.

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Mon, 12-01-2008 - 11:54pm

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Since you don't seem to understand the post you just put together, I'll just say that Colleen's assessment of your statement was correct, whether you can see that or not. I didn't say anybody was "ignorant". Ignorant is a pejorative term and I wouldn't use it to describe anybody at all.


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I asked a question,

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