Who said "Formula is evil"?

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Who said "Formula is evil"?
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Mon, 11-03-2008 - 12:14pm

Ok, we need to get back to debating - so I typed "formula is evil" into Google & found most were saying,



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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:11pm

>>>Me, I'd rather not see children who were ff charged more, but charging women who ff more makes sense.<<<<

It makes sense financially for the insurance company, it doesn't make sense for society to support this, if society cares about people having healthcare coverage.

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:13pm

"How is this an emotional response."


Mad cow disease cannot be killed by pasteurization, so for that reason she'd rather use COW's milk formula rather than human milk?

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:13pm

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Where does your formula come from?

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:16pm

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Mad cow disease cannot be killed by pasteurization, so for that reason she'd rather use COW's milk formula rather than human milk?

Lee

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:16pm
Yes, poor genetics caused the problem - formula made it many times worse.


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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:18pm

"Yes, there is a risk, however, I don't think an emotional response is the way to go, since I haven't heard of any babies here dying from it, the risks

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:20pm

>>>Mad cow disease cannot be killed by pasteurization, so for that reason she'd rather use COW's milk formula rather than human milk? How is that logical?<<<<

If we go through the thread I believe there were a number of reasons donor milk isn't for her, not just one reason and not because of mad cow disease specifically. She said not all diseases are killed by pasteurization, I think you are the one making the link above re: mad cow and formula, which is different than what she said.

>>>>Well, yeah. LLL is not a medical organization, so to avoid liability they kind of have to pander to the AAP's recommendations. The AAP's reasons likely have more to do with a lack of controls - making sure recipients are carefully screening donors and/or pasteurizing. So it's not that M2M milk is inherently more risky than formula, it is the lack of regulation that makes it *potentially* more risky than formula.<<<<

Do you think the blood tests on donor mom's that milk bank's do are frivolous, they don't decrease risk? That seems to be one thing I see milk banks doing that would be harder to do on your own. Is the pasteurization at home exactly the same as done at the milk bank, as in no difference in risk at all? Why does the AAP accept the risk by milk banks and not by M2M donors if it's not inherently more risky?

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:22pm

<<We had a long debate about this very topic a long time ago. I'll go see if I can find it, and bump it up for you.>>




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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:23pm

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Why, upon learning that Mad Cow Disease cannot be killed by pasteurization, do you conclude that COW's milk formula is safer than human milk?

Lee

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 1:27pm

I have a hard time understanding why Lee is criticized for an emotional responses, when her conclusions are the same as those made by professional organizations of doctors and lactation consultants?

We accept that the AAP and LLL won't recommend M2M milk but we can't accept Lee won't use it. And milk bank milk isn't an option (age and health of baby, availability of milk) so why is that one even considered? She isn't saying it's a bad choice for others, I believe she said it was fine for someone else, but not for her. Her reasons to me seem very logical, consistent with the guidelines and practical, not based strictly on emotion.

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