Who said "Formula is evil"?

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Who said "Formula is evil"?
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Mon, 11-03-2008 - 12:14pm

Ok, we need to get back to debating - so I typed "formula is evil" into Google & found most were saying,



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Registered: 10-17-2008
Tue, 12-02-2008 - 9:22pm

"Earlier in the thread people had no issue posting the WHO/AAP hierarchy of infant nutrition, first BF, then pump, then milk bank and formula last."


It's the WHO's hierarchy.

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 9:23pm

Ah Tess, we've missed you around here.


Are you aware that there are *breastfeeding* solutions for most *breastfeeding* problems?


Chances are excellent that a breastfeeding solution to whatever the breastfeeding

 


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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 9:23pm

She's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.


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Registered: 03-25-2003
Tue, 12-02-2008 - 9:23pm

"I must admit, I almost believed some of the anti-formula posts on this forum...for a while. Then I had my baby. I tried to BF exclusively. Well, she started losing weight (this in addition to the weight loss in the hospital). The pediatrician informed me that I needed to supplement her BFing with formula, ASAP. A friend of mine had given me some boxes of formula when I was pregnant, I started feeding her those...and her weight came back on quickly, rosy cheeks, chubby thighs, etc. She is a healthy baby now. Thank God for formula!"


You mean anti-formula sentiment that points out that weight loss in a breastfed infant can usually be safely resolved without formula?


Fortunately, my doctor was pro-breastfeeding (not anti-formula) and when my son was losing weight in his first week, so she sent me to an IBCLC who worked with me daily to get his weight back up - three days, and it was turned around.

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 9:32pm

"Which statement

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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 10:23pm
My thoughts exactly.
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Tue, 12-02-2008 - 10:52pm

>>>>Why is it so important to you that LLLI cannot recommend M2M donation?<<<<

It's not, this is a debate. I'm debating.

>>>>And (surprise surprise, looky here, guess who else does) the AAP supports milk banks. It's not that complicated really. <<<<

Did I say it was complicated?

>>>>Ummmm. The AAP is telling them. Wow. Haven't I said that about 3000 times now?<<<<

Well since there are only 500+ posts and they aren't all yours, no. And I did not take "they are not a medical org" and "they don't make recommendations" to mean that the AAP *tells* them what to say. I am supposed to take your word for that? Because you've said it so much?

>>>LLLI is not a medical org. They are not comprised of medical doctors. They are a support group for bfing moms.<<<<

List of people on their Health Advisory Board: http://www.llli.org/hac.html There are a lot of doctors on that list. From the link: "They act as consultants to La Leche League International regarding medical issues and research pertaining to breastfeeding and human milk. Members are chosen for their professional knowledge and experience and their understanding of the importance of the breastfeeding relationship, as well as their appreciation of LLLI as an organization in promoting and protecting breastfeeding worldwide."

>>>>They cannot (without leaving themselves open to serious liability) tell women to go against what the AAP recommends.<<<

Got it. Then why did they issue this statement that expressly DISagrees with an AAP policy on co-sleeping and pacifiers? http://www.llli.org/Release/sids.html

>>>>LLLI did not create this recommendation. They don't create ANY recommendations.<<<<

No they call them policies or statements, I believe.

>>>>The educate women ABOUT the recommendations set forth by ACTUAL medical organizations. Are you following yet?<<<<

It is not necessary to ask if I'm following. I believe I am following. I am also asking questions, providing links in support of my stance, and debating the issues.

Is the US Breastfeeding Committee also required to follow AAP recommendations? See last link on this page, they ONLY support milk bank donation and not M2M: http://www.usbreastfeeding.org/Publications.html

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Tue, 12-02-2008 - 11:05pm

ME: "My next question is why - posters here have given some answers, which I think were good. But the "LLLI is not a medical org" and "AAP doesn't always get it right" aren't the most compelling of them."

YOU: >>>>>Then why do you keep ignoring this: <><<<<<

This argument is more compelling to me than the other two - I wasn't ignoring it.

>>>>>This has been pointed out to you, numerous times (by myself, and others).<<<<

So am I supposed to stop debating? Is there another other board rule I am not familiar with?

>>>>And LLLI is not a medical org. Why are you insisting that they should be dispensing medical advice?)<<<<<

I did not insist that. They support using milk from milk banks - that is not "medical advice" IMHO, are you saying if they did support M2M - doing so would be "dispensing medical advice"? Where they expressed concern with the AAP policy on co-sleeping and use of pacifiers (see my last post) were they "dispensing medical advice"?

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