If I play the "what if" game with my immune disorder I'd say "what if" I had been bf'd longer than 6 weeks then maybe I wouldn't have had this sucky disabling disease and then I think, well my mom was bf'd and she has the same sucky disease and hers is even worse because better meds were available when I got it, so in reality I'm lucky and then I think "what if" I hadn't married my ex-husband and had that really stressful period that resulted in me bringing on the immune disorder but then I wouldn't have my ODD, so in reality I'm lucky. And then I think this "what if" game is boring me I'm going to go and see if anyone has posted anything new on iVillage.
Ok, you really aren't understanding my point. No biggie.
"I don't understand this, *wanting* to BF is not a requirement to BF."
Neither do I. Baby care is about the baby, not about what Mommy or Daddy *want* to do!
Otherwise those nasty, nasty diapers would be ignored by many instead of something that gets done because baby needs it - no matter how Mom or Dad feels.
Or the getting up in the night, or off the computer or stopping sex because the baby needs something.
I think it's because formula use is so normalized in the culture, it's seen as just another option. If that's what you WANT to do, knock yourself out. If it's NOT what you want to do, pick Pepsi/briefs/whatever floats your boat.
(no harmony, I'm NOT saying that you personally agree that formula is equal to BM, I'm addressing the "wanting to" issue.)
>>>>Indeed. So why go the "riskier" route? ^_^<<<<
You would only do so if you knew the risks, deemed them small in your particular case, and/or have a huge personal reason not to bf'd. If someone is uninformed of the risks, then they just pick one.
>>>It's not really about wants, I'll give you that. It's about what the baby expects. Babies don't expect formula, their bodies are programmed to root and latch and digest BM. *If* a baby could choose though, do you really think it would opt for formula?<<<<
You could say the same about EBM - should we be so quick to let women pump rather than nurse? It's substandard you know.
>>>>As for pain, cracking, blisters, etc, that's pretty commonly experienced in the beginning and if it was such a deterrent, no one would BF and the human race wouldn't have survived. I'm not saying that there aren't some extreme cases, but many women give up in the face of a "normal" problem claiming they hated BFing and because of that their baby wasn't happy. Oh we're right back to the HM=HB arguement it seems.<<<
I think the human race survived women not wanting or not being able to bf'd in part due to wet nurses and because "most" women can bf'd. Let's not forget the infant mortality rate in developing countries is really high. Yet those populations are surviving.
The method may be less ideal, but the substance is the same. It's not a good arguement for formula. Most organizations still put formula last on their list of recommendations, following EBF, EP, and donor milk.
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Most women can BF, that is a fact. If it were not the case then humans wouldn't survive. The only reason women don't accept this is because it is culturally acceptable to not BF for other reasons than our disclaimer here includes.
Be glad you don't remember! I think that I am an extreme case, wrt how many I had and how long they lasted even after tubes. I do have a tiny head, must have tiny canals too :)
The tinnitus could be related, but I don't know enough about it to say for sure.
I will say that based on how I react to ear infections, I do not think I could survive a migraine. Thank G-d I don't experience those. Something about the stabbing pain in the head area just really gets to me!!
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If I play the "what if" game with my immune disorder I'd say "what if" I had been bf'd longer than 6 weeks then maybe I wouldn't have had this sucky disabling disease and then I think, well my mom was bf'd and she has the same sucky disease and hers is even worse because better meds were available when I got it, so in reality I'm lucky and then I think "what if" I hadn't married my ex-husband and had that really stressful period that resulted in me bringing on the immune disorder but then I wouldn't have my ODD, so in reality I'm lucky. And then I think this "what if" game is boring me I'm going to go and see if anyone has posted anything new on iVillage.
Ok, you really aren't understanding my point. No biggie.
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"I don't understand this, *wanting* to BF is not a requirement to BF."
Neither do I. Baby care is about the baby, not about what Mommy or Daddy *want* to do!
Otherwise those nasty, nasty diapers would be ignored by many instead of something that gets done because baby needs it - no matter how Mom or Dad feels.
Or the getting up in the night, or off the computer or stopping sex because the baby needs something.
I think it's because formula use is so normalized in the culture, it's seen as just another option. If that's what you WANT to do, knock yourself out. If it's NOT what you want to do, pick Pepsi/briefs/whatever floats your boat.
(no harmony, I'm NOT saying that you personally agree that formula is equal to BM, I'm addressing the "wanting to" issue.)
>>>>Indeed. So why go the "riskier" route? ^_^<<<<
You would only do so if you knew the risks, deemed them small in your particular case, and/or have a huge personal reason not to bf'd. If someone is uninformed of the risks, then they just pick one.
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>>>>Ummmm. Unless mom has very poor impulse control, how would the child know she hated *any* part of infant care? <<<<
How would an infant *know* there is a choice between bf'ing and ff'ing. We aren't talking reality here.
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>>>It's not really about wants, I'll give you that. It's about what the baby expects. Babies don't expect formula, their bodies are programmed to root and latch and digest BM. *If* a baby could choose though, do you really think it would opt for formula?<<<<
You could say the same about EBM - should we be so quick to let women pump rather than nurse? It's substandard you know.
>>>>As for pain, cracking, blisters, etc, that's pretty commonly experienced in the beginning and if it was such a deterrent, no one would BF and the human race wouldn't have survived. I'm not saying that there aren't some extreme cases, but many women give up in the face of a "normal" problem claiming they hated BFing and because of that their baby wasn't happy. Oh we're right back to the HM=HB arguement it seems.<<<
I think the human race survived women not wanting or not being able to bf'd in part due to wet nurses and because "most" women can bf'd. Let's not forget the infant mortality rate in developing countries is really high. Yet those populations are surviving.
Malcolm Gladwell Blink
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I have a bunch of books in German, including one great one about Noah's ark.
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The method may be less ideal, but the substance is the same. It's not a good arguement for formula. Most organizations still put formula last on their list of recommendations, following EBF, EP, and donor milk.
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Most women can BF, that is a fact. If it were not the case then humans wouldn't survive. The only reason women don't accept this is because it is culturally acceptable to not BF for other reasons than our disclaimer here includes.
<<I agree, it is the ONLY thing I have ever experienced that will completely debilitate me. >>
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Be glad you don't remember! I think that I am an extreme case, wrt how many I had and how long they lasted even after tubes. I do have a tiny head, must have tiny canals too :)
The tinnitus could be related, but I don't know enough about it to say for sure.
I will say that based on how I react to ear infections, I do not think I could survive a migraine. Thank G-d I don't experience those. Something about the stabbing pain in the head area just really gets to me!!
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