Believe me, I am not at all saying they're always unwarranted -- my personal view on birthing is that nature will usually deal with it but yes, in a case where a baby or mother would have died had these interventions not existed, then I have no problem with them.
"Reminds of the arguments I got into with my nurses about the pain I was having during labor. I had this horrible epigastric pain from the pre-e, and it felt just like a gallbladder attack from when I had gallstones eleven years ago. I'd say it felt like a gallbladder attack and they'd say, "That's not what labor feels like"
I had that too!! Both times, and the nurses didn't believe me. It was way worse the first time, when I was induced for pre-e. I thought I had broken
"From what I read, they would do what they could to prevent pregnancies too close together, and infantcide was used if a new member would put the rest of the tribe at risk. So there would not necessarily be another nursing mom to pass baby off to.<<<<
>>>Prehaps. And as Catherine brought out, in caveman days, there were 3 options: 1. Someone else nursed the baby (if there was a someone else). 2. Baby is killed. 3. Someone gets left behind. So when you are faced with these odds, are you really gonna wanna say, "I don't feel like BFing my kid." <<<<
I would think you'd definitely want to feed the one's that didn't get infanticided. But I kind of think of it like the woman in labor that says she can't make it without the epidural. Sure she can, if she had to. And maybe some cavewomen had a hard time with bf'ing and said they can't even when they really could, because they knew that another cavewoman would take over nursing for her. I can see some of today's problems having existed way back then, not all, but some and more than just the rare low supply issue. Who knows for sure, but I could see it happening.
<< "Reminds of the arguments I got into with my nurses about the pain I was having during labor. I had this horrible epigastric pain from the pre-e, and it felt just like a gallbladder attack from when I had gallstones eleven years ago. I'd say it felt like a gallbladder attack and they'd say, "That's not what labor feels like" I had that too!! Both times, and the nurses didn't believe me. It was way worse the first time, when I was induced for pre-e. I thought I had broken
>>>I just can't believe with any part of my being that it was nearly as common as "I just don't want to bf" is today.<<<<
I agree with not nearly as prevalent as it is today - I was just thinking it could possibly more than 1-3%. Maybe it was only 7%. Or 10% I could see that.
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Believe me, I am not at all saying they're always unwarranted -- my personal view on birthing is that nature will usually deal with it but yes, in a case where a baby or mother would have died had these interventions not existed, then I have no problem with them.
"Reminds of the arguments I got into with my nurses about the pain I was having during labor. I had this horrible epigastric pain from the pre-e, and it felt just like a gallbladder attack from when I had gallstones eleven years ago. I'd say it felt like a gallbladder attack and they'd say, "That's not what labor feels like"
I had that too!! Both times, and the nurses didn't believe me. It was way worse the first time, when I was induced for pre-e. I thought I had broken
But I think someone drew a parallel to infanticide and too many children?
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"From what I read, they would do what they could to prevent pregnancies too close together, and infantcide was used if a new member would put the rest of the tribe at risk. So there would not necessarily be another nursing mom to pass baby off to.<<<<
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>>>Prehaps. And as Catherine brought out, in caveman days, there were 3 options: 1. Someone else nursed the baby (if there was a someone else). 2. Baby is killed. 3. Someone gets left behind. So when you are faced with these odds, are you really gonna wanna say, "I don't feel like BFing my kid." <<<<
I would think you'd definitely want to feed the one's that didn't get infanticided. But I kind of think of it like the woman in labor that says she can't make it without the epidural. Sure she can, if she had to. And maybe some cavewomen had a hard time with bf'ing and said they can't even when they really could, because they knew that another cavewoman would take over nursing for her. I can see some of today's problems having existed way back then, not all, but some and more than just the rare low supply issue. Who knows for sure, but I could see it happening.
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<< "Reminds of the arguments I got into with my nurses about the pain I was having during labor. I had this horrible epigastric pain from the pre-e, and it felt just like a gallbladder attack from when I had gallstones eleven years ago. I'd say it felt like a gallbladder attack and they'd say, "That's not what labor feels like"
I had that too!! Both times, and the nurses didn't believe me. It was way worse the first time, when I was induced for pre-e. I thought I had broken
>>>I just can't believe with any part of my being that it was nearly as common as "I just don't want to bf" is today.<<<<
I agree with not nearly as prevalent as it is today - I was just thinking it could possibly more than 1-3%. Maybe it was only 7%. Or 10% I could see that.
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